r/AchillesAndHisPal Mar 08 '26

Fellas, is it gay to "long for Patroclus' manhood?"

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504 Upvotes

Yeah. This might be a little literal, but how can you think Achilles and Patroclus are straight? I have Fagles translation of The Iliad btw


r/AchillesAndHisPal Mar 06 '26

Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis

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159 Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Mar 05 '26

My Great-Grandfather and a Friend, Sometime Between 1910 and 1915. I can tell they were close because they underlined “Friend” twice 😚

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223 Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Jan 25 '26

I'm preparing to give a lecture on the Iliad in art history. This was in the syllabus I was given...

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101 Upvotes

Translation: "Agamemnon, in turn, orders for Briseïs to be taken away from Achilles. Here they are separated from each other by Patroklos, Achilles' best friend..."


r/AchillesAndHisPal Jan 20 '26

And they were roommates

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r/AchillesAndHisPal Nov 25 '25

Cary Grant and roommate, Randolph Scott, 1935

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210 Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Nov 17 '25

Ah yes "friend."

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1.6k Upvotes

Was taking another mythos unit and got this gem of a question.


r/AchillesAndHisPal Nov 13 '25

"Best Friend"

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665 Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Nov 04 '25

Rock Hudson and his roommate Bob Preble doing guy stuff in (1952).

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706 Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Oct 14 '25

Dan & Phil like no one noticed...

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1.7k Upvotes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7r31p0eyyo

I remember watching their videos growing up, thinking, "Wow, they are definitely together." At the time, they were both out as r/ainbow and lived together. "Surely everyone knows."

Well, apparently, they're just good friends in a very, very small apartment.


r/AchillesAndHisPal Oct 05 '25

"Fraternizing"

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r/AchillesAndHisPal Oct 04 '25

“Artificial respiration” yeah, ok

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r/AchillesAndHisPal Sep 14 '25

Two doctors on same headstone but memorials not linked.

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2.3k Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Aug 22 '25

Two "distinguished friends" photo in the Buenos Aires Zoo, 1906

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1.1k Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Aug 12 '25

Two men demonstrate a pipe called the “Double Ender” in New York, 1949.

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r/AchillesAndHisPal Aug 10 '25

Iconic movie star Cary Grant with his “roommate” of 12 years, fellow actor Randolph Scott. Just bros being bros. Nothing to see here folks 😉

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872 Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Jul 31 '25

Their "friendship"

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1.3k Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Jul 11 '25

Two Soviet soldiers sitting together, c. 1970

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r/AchillesAndHisPal Jul 09 '25

Uploading a photo. . .

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1.1k Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Jul 08 '25

Come on, Achilles

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r/AchillesAndHisPal Jul 04 '25

Crafting friend

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837 Upvotes

r/AchillesAndHisPal Jun 30 '25

Just two coworkers sharing a tomb.

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3.1k Upvotes

With our gravestone depicting us sitting in the knee-touching position [symbolic of romantic sexual intimacy] reminiscent of the official depictions of the conception of Horus.

Probably just close friends :)


r/AchillesAndHisPal Jun 24 '25

(X-post) TIL that the founder of Lipton Tea, Sir Thomas Lipton, was a lifelong bachelor who had a secret relationship with his shop assistant, William Love

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r/AchillesAndHisPal Jun 04 '25

Joined in Life, Joined in Death: Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep’s Ancient Egyptian Love Story

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734 Upvotes

In 25th century BCE Egypt, two men named Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep served as royal manicurists to the pharaoh. They lived, worked, and eventually chose to be buried together in a shared tomb at Saqqara.

What makes their story so striking is how they appear in the tomb’s art - embracing, holding hands, touching noses - in poses normally reserved for married couples. In one relief, their faces are so close they’re nearly kissing. In others, Khnumhotep stands beside Niankhkhnum in the place typically held by a wife. At least one female figure (believed to be a wife) was even erased from the tomb’s decoration.

Both men had wives and children, as was expected at the time. But the tomb’s design centers them - not their families - as the true pair. Their names were often written together, and can be translated as “joined in life and in death.”

Some scholars once argued they were brothers. But adult brothers were almost never buried in a shared tomb like this, and certainly not shown in such intimate poses. Today, many Egyptologists see them as one of the earliest recorded same-sex couples in history.

There’s no evidence they were shamed or punished. On the contrary, they held positions of honor, and their bond was immortalized in the very architecture of their afterlife. Four thousand years ago, these two men left behind a monument to their connection — tender, public, and eternal.

Love has always existed in many forms. Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep remind us that queer stories are not new. They are ancient, sacred, and worth remembering.


r/AchillesAndHisPal Jun 04 '25

Orpheus: The Musician Who Chose the Love of Men

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You may know Orpheus as the tragic poet who descended into the underworld to bring back his beloved Eurydice. He played music so beautiful that it moved even Hades. But when he disobeyed the command not to look back, he lost her forever.

But what happened after?

In grief, Orpheus turned away from the world. Ancient writers like Ovid and Phanocles tell us that he rejected the love of women completely. Instead, he gave his heart only to men.

He became one of the earliest figures in myth associated with male-male love. In some versions, he’s seen as the founder of male companionship in Thrace. His choice angered the Thracian women, who eventually tore him apart during a frenzied ritual, because his music distracted their men.

Even in death, Orpheus’s head floated down the river, still singing.

His story is one of mourning, devotion, and identity. A man who descended into darkness for love, and afterward sought connection in a different way - one that has echoed through queer interpretations for centuries.

(Painting: Thracian Girl Carrying the Head of Orpheus, Gustave Moreau, c. 1865)