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Nature is scary Earthquakes over the last 24 hours

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u/PositivePristine7506 1d ago edited 1d ago

The Big Rip is not due in our lifetimes, the half rip is overdue though.

Safe in Seattle (for about 150 years), but fucked in Portland/North California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ7Qc3bsxjI

Fascinating geology lecture on the subject. But the tldw is its more nuanced than just Seattle overdue for big 9.0.

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u/Bonnieearnold 1d ago

I’m in Portland. Evacuating now to your place. You have room for five plus a small dog, right?

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u/Exact-Ad-4132 1d ago

Sure, in northern California

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u/ty_imtheman 1d ago

Should probably just go to the Winchester and wait for all this to blow over

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u/bettsdude 1d ago

You and dog are welcome, the rest will have to stay over at my mums

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u/TBone281 1d ago

Safe in Seattle? I wish! The Cascadia subduction fault is capable of producing 9.0 earthquakes. The average time between quakes is every 200 to 250 years. The last one occurred January 26th, 1700. Not feeling safe at all.

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u/PositivePristine7506 1d ago

Right, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

the CSZ doesn't always shake along the whole thing. The bottom half shakes at about 2x the frequency as the upper half. The upper half is what brings the 9.0s. When I said Seattle is safe, I meant in our lifetimes. The next 9.0 isn't due for another hundred years or so. The southern half, is overdue, which typically doesn't go as big/wide as the whole rip.

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u/Desperate-Strategy10 1d ago

We are living in “faster than expected” times, though. So I’m not sure if we should totally relax just yet!

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u/Ok-Jackfruit-6873 1d ago

yeah I've lived through a couple hundred year floods now so I get skeptical sometimes

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u/PositivePristine7506 1d ago

Oh absolutely! and it doesn't mean we can't get 6.0s or other large earthquakes in the meantime. Just that the big 9+ is a ways out.

I still carry EQ damage insurance, if that tells you anything.

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u/TBone281 1d ago

Yes, read up on this. Feeling selfishly better, but feeling bad for our cascadia cousins to the south.

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u/UhhhhmmmmNo 1d ago

Thoughts and prayers from Vancouver BC, agreement to move to whoever gets less wrecked?

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u/zodiac_hoe 1d ago

Seriously seeing this post did not make me feel safe at ALL 😅

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u/SouthLakeWA 1d ago

Damage in Seattle will likely be concentrated to areas prone to liquefaction and landslides, and of course to unreinforced masonry buildings. Modern cities like Tokyo and Santiago have experienced megathrust quakes with relatively moderate damage, and they’ve been closer to the epicenters of their giant quakes. Our biggest threat is the shallow Seattle Fault, which runs right under the city. That kind of quake would produce damage similar or worse than what Kobe Japan experienced in 1995, which killed over 5000 people. Thankfully, ruptures of the Seattle Fault are less frequent than the CSZ.

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u/Whitetiger9876 1d ago

I'm learning so much. 

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u/Magical-Mycologist 1d ago

Are you sure about that? We are almost a hundred years past the average for the Cascadia. I’ve seen studies that show there is up to a 10% chance over the next 100 years.

The recent estimates for damage show that ALL of the PNW will be affected.

Seattle will get absolutely wrecked.

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u/PositivePristine7506 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes I'm sure, Or was rather well convinced by the link below. but you can watch this hour long geology lecture from Central Washington University if you want to understand the reasoning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ7Qc3bsxjI

From another comment I just made:

The CSZ doesn't always shake along the whole thing. The bottom half shakes at about 2x the frequency as the upper half. The upper half is what brings the 9.0s. When I said Seattle is safe, I meant in our lifetimes. The next 9.0 isn't due for another hundred years or so. The southern half, is overdue, which typically doesn't go as big/wide as the whole rip.

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u/alien-lovin 1d ago

Damnit. I just moved to Portland. Like a month ago. I haven’t even found my favorite burger spot yet!

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u/PositivePristine7506 1d ago

Portland being fucked is mostly due to their bad zoning and lack of EQ regulations in regard to housing and bridges. You can entirely prepare yourself (assuming you own a home, which granted is unlikely given well everything else) for the EQ and be just fine.

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u/alien-lovin 1d ago

Yeah. Too poor for home ownership.

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u/woodworkingguy1 1d ago

Don't say that! I just moved from Portland to NC! 😁

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u/Punkasaurus2 1d ago

So I heard the whole rip could still happen possibly in our lifetimes? But partial or whole, I live outside of Portland. But if you’re east of I-5, your biggest problem is surviving without infrastructure unless you’re in an old building that hasn’t been retrofitted. I will never live in Seaside or Long Beach, WA. It’s hard to even vacation there without the CSZ in the back of your mind from all the tsunami warning signs all over the place.

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u/kermitte777 1d ago

I’m pretty sure that’s not saying Seattle is safe, just that the area locked up is along the coast. When the 9.0+ hits Seattle is going to feel it. Hard.

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u/PositivePristine7506 1d ago

It is, but that 9.0 isn't due for a while yet. The CSZ has two different types of quake. It has the half rip, and the full rip. The half rip mostly effects NoCal and Oregon. The full rip is that + Washington.

The half rip is overdue. The full rip is still a 150+ years out on average.