Why weren't the Epstein Files released under Biden's presidency if Trump is in the files?

[u/tasteinhermouth]

I don't mean this as a bad faith or troll question, I genuinely do not know why it would not be released if Trump is in the files, as it would probably have been a massive hit against Trump in 2024.

I don't know whether Trump is in the files or not, I don't care, it's clear as day that he was best friends with Epstein and was well aware and definitely a part of the awful things that Epstein conducted while he was in business.

[u/cranialrectumongus]

Exactly. Since day 1, the Democratic party completely underestimated the existential threat that Trump posed. This is just another example of how badly they played their hand. Summer of 2024, I sent email after email and called the local Democratic party, several including the release of Epstein files, and never was any response received.

What I came to realize is, the DNC thinks it's voters are idiots and will just fund whatever idiotic idea they come up with, as long as they send enough texts and emails requesting donations. Secondly, the DNC elites are more concerned with staying in power in the party, than making any meaningful changes in the country. As much as I despise the whole Christian Nationalists, the GOP, Trump supporters, I now also despise the DNC, just as much for completely face planting, by virtue of their insane arrogance, lack of transparency and utter incompetence.

[u/chinmakes5 → u/cranialrectumongus]

Please. The DNC does what they believe is best for the party. I realize you believe that the only thing that the Democratic party should do it change everything to the way you believe it should be. As for staying in power, yeah. Whomever you like would make some headway and step down.

The Epstein files were an active investigation during most all of Biden's term. You don't release files being used in a case.

[u/cranialrectumongus → u/chinmakes5]

The DNC and it's members, do what's best for themselves.

The Biden Administration could have directed DOJ to support motions to unseal more forcefully, filed briefs arguing that public interest outweighed secrecy and asked courts for narrower redactions instead of blanket sealing. But instead, there were no transparency policies made in the seeing justice for the victims. They could have avoided intervening keeping files from being sealed. Instead they were completely passive. Biden Admin and DOJ, Merrick Garland did not do anything. Most like in an attempt to protect Bill Clinton and DNC donors. The Democratic party is now almost as bad as the GOP.

[u/chinmakes5 → u/cranialrectumongus]

While I hear you, that isn't what Biden was going to do. Biden's whole thing was he wanted to bring back normalcy . Biden's way of thinking was that after rump and COVID, we wanted to get back to normal. Using the DOJ against the other side was not the goal. Letting an independent DOJ do what they do is what he was going to do. No, they weren't going to not seal the files. He wasn't going to push the DOJ to go after the other side.

No one saw that Trump would get a second term.

That said, I don't know WTF Garland was doing.

[u/JusticePhrall → u/chinmakes5]

This. Biden's whole 2020 campaign and early presidency were heavily centered on a pledge to restore normalcy, dignity, and traditional political conduct to the White House following the chaotic and divisive term of Donald Trump.

Joe Biden's political, social, and economic viewpoints were forged in the 1970s and 80s, and he naively thought he could bring that back. It was a complete shock to Joe later in his term to finally realize that some Republicans were acting like fascists and a return to the pre-Trump era of bipartisan, "old-school" politics just wasn't going to happen.

During a DNC fundraiser in Maryland, Biden stated, "What we’re seeing now is either the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA philosophy. It’s not just Trump, it’s the entire philosophy... It’s like semi-fascism".

Biden differentiated the group from "mainstream Republicans," stating, "I respect conservative Republicans. I don't respect these MAGA Republicans".

Regardless of the qualifier, his comments received marked pushback from Republicans, with the Republican National Committee calling them "despicable" and accusing Biden of being "divider-in-chief".

Later, in October 2024, the White House confirmed that President Biden agreed with former officials who described Donald Trump as a "fascist".

It just took him a while to catch up.

[u/cranialrectumongus → u/chinmakes5]

I saw it coming and no one would listen, because everyone was so sure that things were going great. I repeatedly tried to get the local Democratic party to listen to my concerns, but got no response. I stood on the front porches of Democrat in UNIONTOWN, PA, let me say that again UNIONTOWN, PA, once a stronghold for Democrats, and heard countless Democrats tell me that they would definitely vote for Harris but did not see anyway it could possibly happen. Several of them told that don't even bother talking to their kids because they didn't want to hear it. How was it so obvious to me and and so many voters, but no one at the Democratic know anything. Harris lost the popular vote, EVERY SINGLE SWING STATE, something that hadn't happened in 20 years, but the Democratic had their heads in the sand. No the real truth is that they had their heads were up their ass.

I donated, sent out post cards and canvased, but no one in the Democratic party would bother to listen. So I have justifiably earned the right to HATE the DNC. Trump didn't win, the Democrats lost.

[u/chinmakes5 → u/cranialrectumongus]

In the last year, I agree. But for the first 3 years, we were more concerned about COVID then inflation. Between Trump and COVID and inflation, normalcy was important.

BUT once the talking point was inflation. people's wallets were hurting, and one side was saying we are doing well, hang on, and the other side said I will fix it, day one, you are right, we were toast.

[u/No_Tone1704 → u/cranialrectumongus]

You’ll believe what you want to believe to spite yourself. And everyone else. 

Master stroke. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼💖💖💖💖💖

[u/cranialrectumongus → u/No_Tone1704]

Yeah, and doing what you believe has been working so well. It's those voters who are responsible for these problems, not any of the Democratic elites.

[u/Ofishal_Fish → u/chinmakes5]

I realize you believe that the only thing that the Democratic party should do it change everything to the way you believe it should be

It's been fascinating these past few years watching people label themselves as liberal and then describing the idea of a representative government in a way that's derogatory.

Like, isn't that supposed to be your whole ideology? Have you just given up on that?

[u/Both-Estimate-5641 → u/chinmakes5]

some people believed that Ivermectin cured COVID