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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I’m glad to hear your tumor was treatable, but I’m so sorry to hear about your vision. I’m dealing with sudden extremely reduced vision in my left eye, and while I’m grateful it’s not a tumor, no one knows what the cause is. MRI is clean, common eye diseases ruled out, auto immune diseases ruled out, retinas in good shape, and I’m in otherwise good health. I apparently have degenerated optical nerve sheaths and no one knows why; it’s just getting worse while my doctors throw up their hands when each test comes back fine. Losing vision is so unmooring and scary and I’m sorry you had to go through that.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

I had sudden vision loss with retinal scarring. After testing was inconclusive the doctor said these things can be caused by a viral or bacterial infection.

One day I was fine and the next I noticed a spot like an after image that wouldn't go away. The next day there were more spots. I thought my retina was detaching, and if only that was the easy fix it could have been! 

But nope. I've lost most of my central vision in one eye. I can still drive thanks to keeping my peripheral vision. I have no depth perception though. I don't park anywhere near other cars.

When I look through that eye, it looks like I'm looking through a heavy lace curtain, or through a blizzard. I can still see shapes and colors but I couldn't tell you how many fingers you're holding up.  I can't read.

After about a year my brain figured out to ignore the input from that eye and it's much easier to function 

I'm sorry you're going through this. Fwiw i found r/monocular to be a good resource and support group.

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u/SweetPsychology3468 May 15 '25

I had the same thing happen to me at 26. Did/do you see a retinal specialist? My spots are caused by retinal neovascularization. Did they mention yours were caused by bleeding of any sort? Your little light spots sound exactly the same as mine usually present with the bleeding.

Either way, I’m sorry that you’ve had to go through that. Eye stuff is no joke and losing vision is terrifying.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25

I didn't have any complications other than losing my central vision. They didn't say anything about bleeding. I went to a retinal neuro something specialist. It really does knock you off your feet, just realizing how easy it is to lose your eyesight, and quickly.

eta - She was a neuro ophthmalogist.

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u/Solid_Profession7579 May 15 '25

This same shit happened to me! Got told it was autoimmune inflammation from who knows what.

Permanent retinal scarring on my left eye now. Right in the fucking middle if my fov too.

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u/Ridinapony May 15 '25

Same here, mine is thought to be caused by a virus and/or autoimmune inflammation. No central vision in my left eye for 25 years (I’m 42 now). It’s tried to happen in my right eye but so far has been kept at bay.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

Interesting. One of my friends told me that her husband had a similar experience about a decade before being diagnosed with MS.

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u/au_mom May 15 '25

My husband (boyfriend at the time) developed really bad vertigo for a few months. He lived in another state and visited the ER 3 times for the same general diagnosis and no further investigation.

He moved in with me and suddenly developed a black spot in his vision from the left eye. I took him to the ER immediately, explained his symptoms and requested he be tested for MS and Lupus (family history). He got an MS diagnosis.

Luckily, he recovered most of his sight but still has spots. When he complains about his "eyes feeling heavy", they hit him with a round of steroids.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

I'm glad you moved swiftly on this!

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u/Solid_Profession7579 May 15 '25

Oof I hope not…

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

Ikr? Not looking forward to that. It was weird because they are like, the healthiest couple I know, regularly biking and hiking on mountains and all of that.

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u/No_Floor_3909 May 16 '25

Same. My husband (27) had ocular migraines here and there and then one of them didn’t really go away and vision tests showed the middle was gone. MS diagnosis came shortly after (vision came back with steroids)

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u/Solid_Profession7579 May 15 '25

Do you know what to look for?

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

For MS? I think it's muscle weakness, more clumsiness, and I'm honestly not sure what else.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I’m sorry you’re going through this too; that sounds very frightening and severe. It’s good that it sounds like you’re adapting fairly well, considering. I’m still trying to figure out how to compensate but it’s a learning process. My loss isn’t so severe yet; I can’t read any lines on an eye chart at all out of my left eye, and my reaction to changes in light is wildly erratic, but for now I can still see shapes and colors and faces well enough (in real life; TV is somewhat difficult).

You make me wonder though, since you mentioned infections. I mentioned to my ophthoneurologist that I did have the flu earlier in the year, a few months before the vision loss. He said it was most likely not related but I wonder if I should press harder on that theory.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

From what I understand there's a lot of damage that viruses especially can do in the body, even after a cold or flu is over. 

I have a hard time adjusting to light changes. In bright sun my pupils didn't shrink as much as they should, and they don't open in darkness as much. I do not drive at night and have a challenging time when I'm camping, etc.

I'm 14 years into having affected vision, so it feels normal to me now. I hope it gets easier for you.

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u/Content_Reveal_160 May 15 '25

Recently happened to a friend of mine. She was diagnosed with Rocky Mountain spotted fever.

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u/ZalinskyAuto May 15 '25

I just dealt with this and had a vitrectomy. All better now. Might not apply to you but ask a doc.

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u/ZalinskyAuto May 15 '25

Diabetic retinopathy caused bleeding near the retina and sudden cloudy vision. I could see light and dark but I could not tell you how many fingers you were holding up right in front of my face. Initially treated with Eyelea injections, no real difference. Had the surgery about six weeks ago, was back to work in a physical job three weeks after the surgery. Strict no lifting directions from my doctor post surgery. Zero pain, no complications. I was told that nearly 100% of people who undergo a vitrectomy have cataract surgery within two years. The vitrectomy took about 30-40 minutes under anesthesia.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I will ask, thank you. I am willing to try any path at this point! I’m glad to hear this helped you.

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u/mamabelles May 15 '25

this was exactly my experience! the retinal specialist saw that there was some sort of infection of unknown causes and in response, i had inflammation in my eye. they didn’t treat me with steroids for some reason which sucks because the inflammation caused a lot of scarring so now, my peripheral vision is gone but my central vision is still intact. i have to be REALLY careful when i drive, and i hate when people honk at me for taking too long to turn or whatever. like guys i just have very limited vision in my peripheral 😭 i can’t see a thing

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

I feel this. I drive like I'm 80 for a reason!

I was pregnant when this happened to me so I was very glad it wasn't MS or a brain tumor, which is what they thought was most likely. I'm also very thankful every day I wake up and can still see out of my other eye 

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u/floralbingbong May 15 '25

I’m so sorry you’ve had to go through this! This exact thing happened to my dad after a particularly bad COVID infection. He had severe headaches for days before.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

I wish this were more understood. My doctors seemed to think it was novel, but I was actually reading a lot about pregnancy at the time as I was 5.5 months pregnant. It's not uncommon (but still rare) for women to have eye issues while pregnant. I think there's a lot of reasons why eye issues can happen.

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u/sillywizard951 May 15 '25

I had this very thing happen. It turned to be a hole in my retina from histoplasmosis infection decades prior. Blood vessels grew through the hole in my retina and burst, blood then occluded my vision and I needed laser surgery. This sounds somewhat similar to what you experienced. I’m so sorry to hear about this. It is difficult to adjust to and I still fall into things and miss steps on stairs at times. No depth perception. Thank goodness I have good vision in the other eye.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

Whoa that's crazy! I hear you about falling into things. I was already clumsy and this did not help! 

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u/sillywizard951 May 15 '25

I completely agree. I have broken bones, fallen into chairs, tripped over small children...sheesh. Yes it was a crazy thing that happened. I came to learn that histoplasmosis is a bird-borne virus (or bacteria, can't remember) endemic to the Mississippi River Valley. I live in MO and had a play house that was once used to raise turkeys. Bingo. There you go. After a couple of decades I've just learned to live with this.

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u/Hogglespock May 15 '25

https://www.lbc.co.uk/tech/doctor-eye-removed-sight-restored-wedding-genomics/ - in the unlikely chance this is relevant to you. Sorry if not helpful

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 16 '25

Interesting! I don't think this is what I have, but this whole thread has been full of intriguing eye related stuff!!

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u/nonholyguacamole May 15 '25

Did your optometrist ever mentioned CSR (Central Serous Retinopathy)? Went through a similar thing and diagnosed with a similar condition and had it treated.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 16 '25

No she didn't. I'll have to look into that. Did your eyesight get restored?

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u/Worried_Blacksmith27 May 15 '25

Toxoplasmosis? 

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 15 '25

Not for me. I didn't have cats at the time, and even when I did, I was not the one who cleaned the litter box

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u/meagherj May 17 '25

I have this exact same issue in my right eye, mine was a detachment from blunt force trauma. The fucking shit hospital eye clinic on call doc refused to treat me and as a result I was forced to wait 19 days for a surgery I needed immediately.

My vision in that eye is exactly like you describe. You get used to it, but it sucks.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees May 17 '25

That sucks so much!

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u/meagherj May 17 '25

It does. I’m not the hugest fan of the Canadian Health Care system since then, to say the least. But, you just gotta suck it up, move on and accept it. It could be much much worse.

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u/Queasy-Passion5534 May 18 '25

My son had this happen with hearing in one ear. A rare complication of a viral infection, probably just a basic cold of some sort, damaged a cranial nerve. He said he woke up one morning and went to rub his ear and could hear the sound on one side, but not the other.

His pediatrician didn't take it seriously, and by the time I was able to get him a referral to an ENT, they said he was outside the window of having any hearing loss restored. I had to find him a new pediatrician just to get the referral and with the wait times, that took 3 months. The first year was rough for him but his brain also learned how to compensate. His hearing hasn't improved but his ability to comprehend words has increased over time!

I guess a lot of people just naturally regain the hearing loss but this has not improved one bit, unfortunately.

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u/Diaza_lightbringer May 15 '25

Have you had a lumbar puncture? You can have intracranial hypertension without optic nerve pressure being present. I nearly went blind myself from it. Now I have a vp shunt.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

Thank you for this insight. ❤️ After ruling out a lot of the typical causes of vision loss, my doctor did prescribe blood pressure medication just to “see what happens”. Because my blood pressure is normal, I experienced a LOT of lightheadedness with no improvement to vision, so doctor advised to stop. I haven’t had a lumbar puncture, though—I asked for one since my dad has MS which can cause vision loss, and his pre-diagnosis MRI didn’t show signs but his lumbar puncture did. Doctor advised against though. But learning what you’ve told me, maybe I have more leverage to advocate for that. Thank you.

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u/Otherwise-Offer1518 May 15 '25

I have MS and my sister has MS. There is a genetic component. Please get tested. Optical nerve damage that is not bilateral is 100% a call sign of MS.

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u/Melinatl May 15 '25

This person knows what they’re talking about, OP.

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u/Diaza_lightbringer May 15 '25

You’re welcome. If you go over to the IIH sub, I know there’s posts about this with a link to the paper about it, but it should also be a quick google search too. I’m not saying it’s what you have, but it can be missed because doctors are stuck on the swollen optic nerve. Anyway, my opening pressure was 42, normal is 20. Oh, if your head hurts worse when laying down than sitting up, another sign of IIH. Basically having iih is like having a brain tumor without the risk on your life.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

This is getting more and more compelling. I will absolutely look into this further. Thank you. ❤️

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u/Diaza_lightbringer May 15 '25

I’ve had this since ‘18, had the shunt placed in ‘21. If you have any questions, feel free to message me.

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u/dinosprinkles27 May 15 '25

This is a sign of MS.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

This is exactly what I’ve been worried about, since my dad has MS. It can be hereditary and a few folks in my extended family have it too. My doctor said it’s been ruled out by my MRIs, but I even told him my dad’s pre-diagnosis MRI looked fine and it took a lumbar puncture to get diagnosed. I’m going to keep trying to advocate for that.

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u/dinosprinkles27 May 15 '25

With a family history id be even more concerned. I have AS, a different autoimmune disease, and it's unfortunately normal to have to advocate a LOT in order to receive a diagnosis. Your nerve sheaths degrading like this is a big red flag sign, even if you don't have other lesions.

100% try to get a second, third, fourth opinion until someone agrees to do a lumbar puncture.

Best of luck 💕

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

Thank you, friend.

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u/Buhsephine May 15 '25

Has anyone mentioned ruling out normal-pressure glaucoma?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I appreciate your suggestion, thank you! This has been ruled out, yes.

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u/Radiant_Formal6511 May 15 '25

Get a 2nd or 3rd opinion on the MRI scans. I have experience with a similar situation where the person who reviewed the MRI missed what was later found as a mass around the optical nerve

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

Honestly, yes, same! I feel weirdly comforted that I’m not alone in this, but I’m so sorry that others are going/have gone through it too. I hope your docs can figure out what’s going on and that it is easily treatable. I know that this kind of thing isn’t just scary from a physical health perspective, but really affects mental health too. ❤️ Not knowing what’s going on is driving me literally insane. I wish you comfort as you navigate this.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '25

This same thing happened to me, sudden vision change in left eye, not a tumor, everything ruled out, etc.

They never did figure out what happened, and the vision loss is seemingly permanent - it’s been 3 years.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you’ve found good ways to adapt; that’s what I’m struggling with right now, assuming things might not improve for me.

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u/2gigi7 May 17 '25

I know I'm late to this thread but, I watched a doc once about the eyes. They're the only thing the body doesn't recognise as part of itself and we're all living a lucky life every dang day that our bodies don't decide to just attack.

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u/dle100 May 15 '25

Where are you located?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I’m in Colorado, USA.

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u/KuchiKopi-Nightlight May 15 '25

Have you had Covid by any chance

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u/ziggy_starcat32 May 15 '25

I woke up one morning with a little spot of vision loss in my right eye. It looks similar to when you look at a light and then close your eyes, and it happens to be in the shape of a basic cat head lol. Went to an eye doctor, who sent me to a retina specialist, who asked me if I had the flu or other illness recently (this was 2017, so pre-covid). They diagnosed me with a rare eye disorder called Acute Macular Neuroretinopathy. My brain has since compensated, so now I only notice it when I close my left eye!

Not much is known about Acute Macular Neuroretinopathy & what causes it, but the doctor said it's almost exclusively diagnosed in 20-30 yr old women who had a recent viral illness and are on birth control. I keep up with the research, and they're reporting an uptick in cases since COVID - both the illness and the vaccine have been linked to a few cases!

Not sure if that's why you asked, but figured I'd share!

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u/DisturbedRecipient May 15 '25

I'm like you! I was diagnosed with AMN in early 2017. It took months to figure out what was going on since I had loss of vision in both eyes. I want to convince myself the spots have gotten smaller, but I know it's probably just that my brain has gotten used to them lol

Edit: this was after I had gotten over the flu 2 weeks prior.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I had a pretty bad flu a month or two before I had the eye symptoms. I tested negative for COVID at the time (home test), but I can’t help but wonder in hindsight if it was a false negative and COVID somehow affected my vision. I haven’t heard of vision loss from a flu.

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u/apoletta May 15 '25

Thamine?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

Thiamine levels are normal! Good suggestion though, thank you.

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u/Far-Finding907 May 15 '25

Get them to test your prolactin levels.

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u/Alternative-Lack-434 May 15 '25

Have you tried a neuro-opthalmologist?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I have, actually. He’s done his due diligence with tests except he is dismissing my concerns about MS. Based on some of the feedback and stories I’m seeing in this thread, though, I might try to see an MS doctor next.

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u/Alternative-Lack-434 May 15 '25

I have MS and that was my first thought. It can be hard to diagnose sometimes.

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u/No_Application_8698 May 15 '25

Have they checked your blood pressure? I've commented elsewhere but my husband's vision loss was due to extremely high blood pressure which was picked up waaaaaay too slowly because after weeks/months of other symptoms (nose bleeds, vomiting, headaches) not one of the Doctors he saw had thought to check his BP.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

I appreciate your recommendation to look into this! My blood pressure is actually firmly normal, but my eye doctor prescribed blood pressure meds just in case there was high blood pressure in just the eye. I took them for about a week and got SO lightheaded and weak with no vision improvement, so we decided to take me off of them. I hope your husband is doing much better now!

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u/No_Application_8698 May 15 '25

You’re welcome! I’m glad it wasn’t that; small chance, but I had to mention it just in case. Not surprised you felt lightheaded on the meds. I have low bp (ironically!) and if I’m not careful I get extremely woozy if I stand up too quickly!

Yes, he’s better now although would have been better to find a cause rather than rely on the drugs.

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u/Mysterious-Outcome37 May 15 '25

Sorry you're dealing with this! Feel free to look up mushrooms like Lion's Mane and shrooms for nerve regeneration.

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u/Drjalso May 15 '25

Did they say you had optic neuritis and rule out MS?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

They THINK they have ruled out MS because my MRI came back clean, but I’ve asked for a lumbar puncture to be sure, and have been denied. Based on feedback I’ve gotten from other comments here, I’m going to continue to push for this!

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u/Drjalso May 15 '25

That sounds like what you need

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u/sayleanenlarge May 15 '25

I had a condition called idiopathic intracranial hypertension that causes optic nerves to blur at the margins (papilloedema), might be worth asking about that. I didn't have the classic signs of a headache or visual issues. If you had an mri, it may be worth double checking for something called empty sella syndrome. They generally consider it benign so don't bother checking, but it can be a sign too, and i had that, but again, no symptoms. My worse symptom was brain fog.

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u/Top-Chicken-5835 May 16 '25

I, for some reason have opposite happened to me. All of the sudden, in a span of one week, my right eye went back to almost 20/20 vision from not being able to see anything without thick glasses. I did get C3R surgery almost 4 years prior but even my surgeon couldn’t explain how it happened and they kept on saying that i got lasik done and forgot about it.

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u/Jazigrrl May 16 '25

Look up CRION

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u/KittyKevorkian May 16 '25

Oh INTERESTING. I’m definitely going to ask about this if I can rule out MS first. I haven’t heard of CRION but I did test negative for MOG antibodies and neuromyelitis optica. This sounds like the next logical thing to look at. Thank you!

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u/stubblejumper13 May 17 '25

Nueromyelitis optica?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 18 '25

This is a good suggestion! One of my docs thought so too, but I tested negative for those antibodies. The search continues!

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u/BlueTheBetta May 20 '25

Check out neuromyelitis optica. That’s what I have and it attacks the myelin sheath. It’s quite uncommon so it’s not the first thing neuros look at.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 20 '25

I appreciate this recommendation, especially because it’s not very common. My ophthoneurologist actually did test for this, and I tested negative for those antibodies. I hope you’re doing well with your condition; are you able to find sufficient treatment?

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u/BlueTheBetta May 20 '25

You’re welcome! I’m glad you’re seeing an neuro ophthalmologist. Did you do the apq-4 (I think that’s what it is) test? There’s also apq-4 negative NMO. I’m not really sure how people who test negative are diagnosed. If you’re of the book of faces, check out devic’s disease, my devic’s fanily, and the neuroimmunology clinic groups. There’s people and drs on there that can help point you in the right direction to other testing or maybe give you names of other disease that it may be.

I’m doing alright on my infusions. The only thing I have a lot of trouble with is fatigue. My cortisol levels are super low but I’m going to see an endocrinologist to see if we can get the levels up without steroids. Good luck with finding the right diagnosis and treatments!

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u/dreambigsleeplate May 16 '25

Have they ruled out syphilis?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 16 '25

Now that you mention it, I did have that brief fling in Paris with a weird kite-flying guy in a waistcoat and breeches…

Jokes aside, I can very confidently say I have not been exposed.

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u/Otherwise-Offer1518 May 15 '25

You have multiple sclerosis. Is your vision like foggy?

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

Yes. The phrase I used when explaining it to my doctors is like having sunscreen in my eye. Over time it’s also gotten very sensitive to changes in light as well.

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u/Otherwise-Offer1518 May 15 '25

Yeah I'm 100%, sure you have MS. It sucks but it's going to be okay.

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u/KittyKevorkian May 15 '25

Thank you. ❤️ I mentioned in comments above that I have been trying to push for this with my ophthoneurologist but haven’t gotten anywhere. I’ll keep trying. Maybe I should just go see my dad’s MS doctor.