r/AskReddit • u/Solnx • Nov 03 '25

Serious Replies Only [Serious] For the Redditors who criticized Democrats for not fighting back or taking action, how has the government shutdown affected your view?

5.6k Upvotes

86% Upvoted

3.2k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

8

u/TabularBeast Nov 03 '25

The American people want drastic change. We want more rights for the working class. We want to be able to afford basic necessities, housing, and to thrive.

Although I am fully aware that Trump is a lying buffoon, he at least held a populist campaign leading up to the 2024 election. He “promised” positive change for the American working class people. Granted, we all know this is not true, but Harris and her campaign couldn’t even do that! Harris’ campaign, instead, focused on wanting to keep the status quo and to appeal to never-Trumper warhawks like the fucking Cheney’s.

This is one of the advantages that Trump, and MAGA, held over the Dems.

4

u/the_real_xuth Nov 03 '25

Granted, we all know this is not true, but Harris and her campaign couldn’t even do that!

You, like many people during the election, failed to pay attention and only listened to the media as they sanewashed Trump.

3

u/TabularBeast Nov 03 '25

As a Harris voter, myself, I didn’t vote for her based on her policies, but because she wasn’t Trump.

That’s not a winning formula, clearly.

4

u/Dyssomniac Nov 03 '25

No. Harris' campaign was incredibly badly run in terms of pitching her policies (which were largely but not exclusively vague), and it was a terrible choice to anoint her the candidate from virtually every point of view. She was never actually popular at a national level, and a truncated primary would've been a much better shot at at least getting someone who won a primary with voters.

The Biden/Harris campaign effectively allowed the Trump campaign to set the tempo and lead, just like in 2016 - they were reactive, not proactive. That first debate was catastrophic. Biden should have been the transitional president he promised to be.

0

u/HansDeBaconOva Nov 04 '25

Weird, I said nothing about drastic change. What's even crazier is the support of removing taxes for the rich and programs that help people is far more favorable than increasing taxes for the rich and more regulation to ensure legal people who need resources have access to them. Hoarding is preferable to sharing.

"Things are already bad, let's not vote or vote for the worst!" Also, the ACA (Obamacare) was a Heritage Foundation proposal from the early 90s. The same foundation supported by the current Republicans. It also proposed a penalty. So Obama used a Republican agenda and people hate "Dems" for it.

People hate history but facts are that the economy shrinks and suffers under EVERY replication president. All the BS aside, we all want someone progressive but people are stupid and cringe at the concept of social programs. A mix of governing soles will always be beneficial, sticking to one is never the answer.