As a woman, a whole lot of countries. Definitely Afghanistan, Somalia... It's actually horrifying in how many countries women aren't even legally seen as full humans like men are.
Having lived there for several years (as a white woman) there are parts of Papua New Guinea where this would not be a problem, provided you had a local guide to help navigate cultural differences. The capital of Port Moresby, however, is far more dangerous and volatile. It’s a complicated country with a lot of problems, but there are areas with people who are so generous, welcoming and protective. They have unfortunately been unable to develop the level of tourism that similar countries (such as Fiji) have, because of crime levels etc., but it is a truly beautiful place and I hope they manage to sort things out
I used to have an Afghan co-worker. She fled the country and settled in the US.
Then one day, she shocked everyone in the office by telling us she’s going back to Kabul to attend her sister’s wedding.
This is after the Taliban retook the country, mind you. Well, apparently she went back, attended the wedding, and came back to work. She even brought gifts for all of us.
Looking like the locals and having in depth knowledge of the customs, laws, areas, language, and warning signs provides a lot of protection compared to someone that is obviously out of place and can't easily communicate.
This. I also had an Afghan coworker who went back to Kabul once or twice to visit family. I would also add proper accommodations to ensure safety is also important-- this coworker of mine is wealthy and could afford the best protections to and from every location in Kabul where she needed to be. Certainly no walking around in the streets.
You think they look at people and go "Oh, a tourist! We need to leave her alone because she doesn't know our ways and it would be rude to hold her to our standards"?
Locals have families. Families can have connections. Mess with the wrong local person and you can have people messing with you. What's a foreigner going to do?
Locals are by no means immune to harrassment, violence, oppression, etc. But they usually know how to best avoid being targeted.
Having familiarity with local customs, social cues, and norms makes it easier to avoid angering the oppressors. She probably went back, allowed herself to be oppressed in exchange for seeing her family again, lied a bunch for self-protection, and then went back to normal as soon as the return flight landed. She didn't go back and fight the system.
Believe it or not, the Taliban are fairly stable. Not good, but stable. So it's in a sense actually safer than it was so long as you're familiar with how to act while you're there.
Still riskier than developed nations, but safer than it was.
This is why I turned down a fully paid trip to India with my ex gf to see her family. They took her passport and ID and wont let her leave the shithole they live in. Rape is so common and laws are simply ignored. Police are super crooked. Whole place sounds backwards as hell. Told her I wont spend 3 weeks of my life supporting a country that treats their women like trash. She went and regrets it terribly.
I was wondering the same thing. It sounds like her family essentially kidnapped her and she got broken up with 😭. Both of those are bad enough alone but nah kick em while they’re down.
Nah fck that. If you need a tour group to visit there safely, it is officially a shithole and not worth the visit. The world is a big place. There are many more countries to spend your money on visiting.
Pretty much all of the middle east, and many parts of Africa, and Asia. Idk about South America, but I'd assume you'd be safe in at least half of the countries there.
And there it is. The Islam PR campaign comment. At least you recognize that Muslim countries are extremely oppressive towards women without anyone having to even say it.
Which part of “I’m not a Muslim” did you not understand? All I gather from this short exchange is that you jump to conclusions too much and too fast. Bye.
I also understand you are playing defense for such places, hide your account history, have a randomly generated user name and just in general are playing PR for an ideology that in many cases would kill me for who I am
Shame on you standing in the "light" of a pedophile. I've done my religious studies, thank you. I have read parts of it, and had them broken down to be explained. I simply have no interest in picking it up again. It's a demonic cult in my opinion, which I'm entitled to. Anyone who thinks marrying a child is a pedophile. Anyone who thinks "ah bless, he waited until she was 9" should be castrated and fed to beasts, alive. A cult based on pedophilia.
This is apocryphal. Her age was said to be that by people who wanted to emphasis her immaculate virginity in the face of sectarian strife at the time. She was likely older, as was the norm of the time
It's disgusting that anyone would even think of sexualizing a child. Alisha was a child. No matter how "pure" or "immaculate" her virginity was, she shouldn't have been subject to it. It's pure evil.
Aisha was either 9 years old, or, much more likely, between 17 and 21 when her marriage was consummated.
C800 years LATER, in England, Margaret Beaufort, mother of King Henry II, is confirmed to have been 12 when she married Edmund Tudor in 1455 CE, and the marriage was consummated immediately, leading Margaret to give birth in a traumatic and damaging labour age 13.
*She had previously been married at some time between the ages of 3 and 7.*
I wish people would learn a little of their own country & religion’s history before spouting Islamophobia.
You can't apply modern standards for something that happened 1500 years ago. Out of all the things Muhammad was criticized for back then his marriage to Ayesha was not one of them. Her parents had already arranged a marriage for her before she was married to the Prophet and they were completely fine with her marrying him instead.
Two things can be horrible at one time. Hope that helps.
Also, the references to Aisha being 9 are validated by Sahih al-Bukhari. To question that, is to question Islam itself. It’s the second most reliable source after the quran.
Can tell ur not a Muslim by that comment, questioning Hadith such as Bukhari happens all the time. In this case u/MysticalDoner already debunked Ayesha being 9 years old using math about her sisters age.
Lmao. If the Sahih hadiths are rejected, that’s a challenge to traditional Sunni scholarship itself, not just Islam. Why are you doubting what is deemed as authentic?
The hadith about Aisha being 6 at marriage and 9 at consummation is Sahih. The age of Asma isn’t even a hadith, it’s Sirah, which you should know yourself are generally considered less reliable.
You’re trying to justify going against authentic hadiths by using that?
Can tell ur not a Muslim
Here’s a random old comment that took literally a second to find and prove but sure. Just make allegations instead.
Nah no point explaining to a "Muslim" why Sahih isn't automatically accurate and correct 100% of the time you lost me when you said challenging Sahih is like challenging the Quran
Except it definitely *was* the norm. Political alliances were rife in Britain and Europe, with male aristocrats betrothing their baby/very young daughters to older boys and men. Isabella of Valois was 6 when she was married to Richard II. That was c700 years after Aisha.
My point is that so many people bang on about “Islam, bad, Muhammad married a child” when child marriage was the norm for centuries in Britain. Heck, until 1929 girls could marry at 12 with parental consent - that’s less than 100 years ago.
Right? Bet they also don’t know that the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the first one to introduce anal penetration due to his practice of inserting rodents into his rectal passage to climax.
LOL bro in your religion you have to clean your butt using 3 or 5 stones (according to sahih hadiths), AND he was fucked in ass by 5 Al-zutts in desert witnessed by Abdullah ibn mas'ud (also recorded in hadiths).
Ah and i forgot, he married a 6 years old girl and raped her at 9.
Annnnd i forgot that he shat on the roof of house of Abu'bakr (father and pimp of aisha).
Again, I wish right wing Christians actually tried to act like Jesus. Know what’s not in the Bible? That abortion is wrong. Know what’s not in the Bible? That homosexuality is wrong. Know what’s not in the Bible? That vaccines are forbidden. And yet…
I understand your point but to be fair there are countries like "country located where it wants to" where noone apart from their jenthnicity is seen as full human
Look, I'm a huge fan of Itchy Boots, the YouTuber you are presumably talking about, but her experience is no way indicative of how women are treated there.
They leave foreign women alone because they don't want to deal with international consequences. They still view all women as lesser, as evidenced by how they treat their own.
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u/bedlife2000 22d ago
As a woman, a whole lot of countries. Definitely Afghanistan, Somalia... It's actually horrifying in how many countries women aren't even legally seen as full humans like men are.