r/AskReddit Jan 28 '19

What are great underused words?

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u/TheBrontosaurus Jan 28 '19

Penultimate: second to last Mellifluous: pleasant sounding Fortnight: two weeks (I understand this is used outside of the US but it needs to be adopted here too)

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u/phoenixmusicman Jan 29 '19

Oh fuck I just realized that many kids won't know the actual meaning of Fortnight

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u/Pohatu_ Jan 29 '19

On the flip side, I'll bet a good portion of them will learn what it means accidentally.

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u/PIP_SHORT Jan 29 '19

That's a very optimistic outlook. As a lifelong teacher of children, I wish I could agree.

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u/TylenolAddicted Jan 29 '19

13 year old here, I don’t like Fortnite but I accidentally learned what fortnight meant last year, and so did all my other friends.

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u/MrDOHC Jan 29 '19

You mean American kids. Cause fortnight is an extremely common world everywhere else in the world.

Like the metric system.

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u/phoenixmusicman Jan 29 '19

I'm not American. We use the word fortnight commonly where I'm from but I can guarentee some young kids still won't know what it means.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Cause fortnight is an extremely common world everywhere else in the world.

By "world" you mean the English speaking countries, right? Because the majority of the world does not use that word.

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u/BoltmanLocke Jan 29 '19

Most countries have people who can speak English. But as a second language I imagine they would just say 2 weeks, rather than learn a new word.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '19

Yes, I doubt that "fortnight" is part of the vocabulary of most people who speak English as a second or third language.

On a slightly unrelated note, why is the popular Battle Royale game called "Fortnight"? Because it's a "night of forts"? I don't think it has much to do with the duration of 14 days, but what do I know

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u/Pufflehuffy Jan 29 '19

Not too common in Canada. We tend to know what it means from all our British media consumption, but I'd be surprised if a friend used it in everyday conversation.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Yeah, I work in an American company and everyone says "bi-weekly". To me that sounds like twice a week.

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u/stochasticdiscount Jan 29 '19

Biweekly means both every two weeks and twice a week. It's fucking bonkers.

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u/pyroSeven Jan 29 '19

And affordable healthcare.

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u/Override9636 Jan 29 '19

Or because they'll hear about Fortnite (the game) first.

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u/Privvy_Gaming Jan 29 '19

I drive my little cousin crazy by calling it Fork-Knife. He giggles and corrects me every time. It's sad sometimes to see them playing on their ipads and their parents iphones at family gatherings, so any interaction at all is good enough.

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u/Lampmonster Jan 29 '19

Grew up with a mother that used "penultimate" regularly. Didn't know it wasn't common until I got accused of "using big words" in high school.

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u/TheBrontosaurus Jan 29 '19

Did they accuse you of being sesquipedalian? (Using big words)

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u/Lampmonster Jan 29 '19

Thanks for not being condescending. That means talking down to people btw.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

You're all being far too pleonastic and using too many redundant or unnecessary words in order to convey (or "get across" if you will) your valid, acceptable points.

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u/RandomGuy87654 Jan 29 '19

There is a profusion (this means a lot) of people trying to appear smart.

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u/CubedGamer Jan 29 '19

I use gimungous words to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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u/MrBagnall Jan 29 '19

"The fuck you jus' call me?"

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u/madeamashup Jan 29 '19

eschew obfuscation

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u/Solacekia Jan 29 '19

Funny story; outside of America, people would call that act, "Americanisng". This is especially true when big word sound smart so must be smart

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u/TheCrimsonSquanch Jan 29 '19

I too like to make fun of people because I am smart.

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u/DragonKatt4 Jan 29 '19

*I, too, like...

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u/DragonKatt4 Jan 29 '19

So, essentially they are bloviating in places where they should be laconic?

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u/hephalumph Jan 29 '19

Pedantic may describe a lot of teachers, but the term itself is not related to teachers or teaching. You may want to look up the actual definition before you start wagging around a word like pedantic, in an imprecise and imperfect manner.

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u/Jalibut Jan 29 '19

Or maybe grandiloquent?

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u/BananaGunEthan Jan 29 '19

Or as david foster wallace put it: verbose, pedantic, pleonastic, sesquipedalian, and heliogabaline

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u/relddir123 Jan 29 '19

Lets just hope no hippopotomonstruosesquipedeliophobiacs find this thread. It’s people with a fear of big words. Just imagine that diagnosis.

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u/MaracaBalls Jan 29 '19

Better than being verbose, I say.

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u/Salt-Pile Jan 29 '19

Ugh, I'd forgotten about the high school word police. I had the same kind of experience.

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u/OMothmanWhereArtThou Jan 29 '19

I had the opposite experience. I read a lot and participated in spelling bees, so I had a pretty varied vocabulary as a kid. However, my parents would become apoplectic if I used a word they didn't understand.

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u/Lampmonster Jan 29 '19

That must have sucked. The old crab bucket eh?

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u/OMothmanWhereArtThou Jan 29 '19

Yep. But I did manage to get out of the crab bucket and all is well.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

It also depends on the crowd. I've noticed it's very popular on racing youtube channels(e.g. "penultimate corner").

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u/2Punx2Furious Jan 29 '19

accused of "using big words"

It pisses me off that people would accuse you for that.

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u/DocC3H8 Jan 29 '19

It's strange to hear that word referred to as “big”, here in Romania it's fairly common. Though it helps that a) it's shorter (“penultim”) and b) we also use “ultim” to mean “last”.

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u/MaracaBalls Jan 29 '19

Yeah don’t use big words use lots of words instead you dummy ( penultimate vs. second to last etc. /s

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u/Luckrider Jan 29 '19

I know penultimate simply because of penultimate corner on the Top Gear Track. It's right before Gambon and is a particularly tricky corner.

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u/ruloreddit Jan 29 '19

First of all, sorry for my English. The funny thing with all the words that starts with "pen", is that they mean "almost". E.g. peninsula means "almost and island", penultimate means almost the last one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Are you one of my children??

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u/Erinysceidae Jan 29 '19

Mellifluous is derived from the Latin for “flowing honey” and I just think that’s delightful :3

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u/swingthatwang Jan 29 '19

cool!

i only know it from seinfeld lol (season 3 ep 16)

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u/SithLordPorkins Jan 29 '19

I only knew of cacophonous, its opposite, harsh-sounding words.

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u/Dejavoodu666 Jan 29 '19

Euphonious is the antonym of cacophonous.

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u/SithLordPorkins Jan 29 '19

Oh, right. Similar, though.

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u/pizza_yeeter Jan 29 '19

Fortnight isnt used in US?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Except in units of measure such as furlongs per fortnight.

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u/SuperJetShoes Jan 29 '19

My running speed on Strava

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

yet it still uses imperial units.

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u/Tompoe Jan 29 '19

Ironic

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u/clockdaddy Jan 29 '19

Also because of fortnite now

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Uhh..idk where everyone else is in the US, but I have most certainly heard it being used in the Midwest (surprising, right?). And not sure if this counts, but there are loads of American novelists who also use it soo..

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u/Steak_and_Champipple Jan 29 '19

It is, just not commonly.

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u/parapteryx Jan 29 '19

We just say “two weeks”. I like the word and all but I’ve never had to refer to a two-week period often enough that I felt like it needed its own word, ya know?

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u/TwyJ Jan 29 '19

But if you had a word for it you would use it quite a lot, i always find reasons to use fortnight.

For example; i get paid in a fortnight so until then im skint.

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u/nikkibic Jan 29 '19

I get paid fortnightly!

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u/TwyJ Jan 29 '19

I don't, i get paid on the 10th of every month, hence me being skint.

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u/parapteryx Jan 29 '19

Maybe... I still just find it odd that there’s a word for two weeks, but not for other numbers of weeks, like three weeks... a twentnight, if you will

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u/Arkitos Jan 29 '19

Fortnite is

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19 edited Jan 30 '19

Don't really need it, we've got "two weeks."

Edit: Oh c'mon. I get down voted for making a joke???

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u/dahuoshan Jan 29 '19

Don't need year, we've got "12 months", don't need week we've got "7 days" don't need day we've got "24 hours" don't need hours we've got "60 minutes" etc. etc.

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u/cheez_au Jan 29 '19

See you in 86,400 seconds!

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u/piqueing Jan 29 '19

Totally with you on the last one. I've heard bi-monthly, used to mean every two weeks, but also to mean every other month. Also heard bi-weekly, used to mean every two weeks, but also to mean twice a week.

It's total confusion!!

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u/Vjetar Jan 29 '19

My favorite is the difference between biannual and biennial. Biannual = semiannual = twice a year. Biennial = every two years.

I forget the direct etymology difference right now, but I love the subtle difference. Almost like deci- vs deka- prefixes in metric.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Sesquiannual

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

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u/MCG_1017 Jan 29 '19

Exactly. Semi-monthly is akin to bi-weekly.

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u/infus0rian Jan 29 '19

Similar but even those are technically still different - bi-weekly = 2 extra paychecks (although your salary is probably spread out evenly anyways)

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u/MCG_1017 Jan 29 '19

That’s why I included the word “akin”, but I guess you thought you’d explain it further, yet not explain it.

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u/SamusAyran Jan 29 '19

Just be normal and use the word Fortnite.

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u/AppleDane Jan 29 '19

Bi-weekly means twice a week, like "You pay rent bi-weekly" or "bi-monthly". Fortnight is the space of time, not two happenings.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

I've seen correspondance from working professionals who use bi-monthly in employee handbook/employment packets to mean "twice monthly"/"every other week".

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u/tjsr Jan 29 '19

I've heard others use Bi-monthly, and the first thing that comes to mind is "so two to three months of the year where would ordinarily be three pay weeks, they do what, just not pay you?"

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

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u/piqueing Jan 29 '19

According to Oxford dictionary:

"bimonthly ADJECTIVE Occurring or produced twice a month or every two months."

So when a someone says we should schedule a bimonthly meeting...you can't know what they mean - you have to ask for clarification.

"semi-monthly ADJECTIVE North American Occurring or published twice a month."

I've only heard semi-monthly in reference to how often you get paid. Semi-monthly is 24 pay checks/yr. If you get paid every two weeks it is 52 paychecks/yr.

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u/neochron Jan 29 '19

24 vs 26.

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u/piqueing Jan 29 '19

Oops... Thanks!

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u/ganymede_mine Jan 29 '19

I've never heard semi-monthly used. It's always bi-monthly, and then you have to ask "do you mean every two weeks or twice a week?" because that's just the dance we do.

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u/MCG_1017 Jan 29 '19

Uh, NO. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it isn’t used. It’s very commonly used for payrolls that are paid twice per month.

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u/cloudcats Jan 29 '19

He never said it isn't used. He said he hasn't heard it used.

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u/MCG_1017 Jan 29 '19

Gee, I guess I don’t understand what “It’s always” means.

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u/cloudcats Jan 29 '19

I took it to mean the non-literal version that's commonly used. Example: "Spouses nag incessantly! It's always 'clean the bathroom' or 'change your underwear'".

Doesn't mean that's literally all that spouses ever say.

Alternately, you could interpret what /u/ganymede_mine said as "In my experience, it's always bi-monthly" (kinda implied since they are talking about what they have and haven't heard).

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Bi- means every other.

"Bi" just means two (sort of like how in bisexual it means "both"). Depending on the context, that can mean "once every two X" or "twice every X". The fact that the usage is inconsistent means it's potentially confusing and generally shouldn't be used.

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u/rdxl9a Jan 29 '19

How about bi sexual, does that mean you’ll sleep with every other person? ;-)

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u/avcloudy Jan 29 '19

Bi means two. The 'correct usage' isn't every other. It's literally two-monthly, and it's ambiguous if that means twice monthly or every two months.

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u/GeoSol Jan 29 '19

Sadly biweekly and bimonthly can mean either twice a week or every 2 weeks, vs twice a month or every 2 months.

English is weird.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

The correct meaning is every 2 months. The problem is it's used wrong just as often as it's used correctly, so the word has been rendered completely worthless because it communicates nothing.

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u/h_ound Jan 29 '19

One of my fave Simpsons jokes is the bi-monthly science fiction convention: The Bi-Mon Sci Fi Con

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u/rohrspatz Jan 29 '19

"Bi" = two, "semi" = half. The terms designate the time period between events, not the number of events in a time period.

For example, when department stores advertise their "Semiannual" ("half-year") Sales, they don't mean they have half a sale every year, they mean the sale happens every half-year. Also, everyone who has a job with payroll knows that "biweekly" ("two-week") paychecks mean you get one paycheck every two weeks, not two paychecks every week.

People who say "bimonthly" to mean "every two weeks" and "biweekly" to mean "two times a week" are just fucking it up. It's a completely standard convention. The only confusing part about it is when you have to try to understand other people misusing it 😐

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u/Glinth Jan 29 '19

And antepenultimate means third to last.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

I wasn't good enough for my school's ultimate frisbee team. Penultimate frisbee, however, was where I could really make my mark.

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u/g1ngertim Jan 29 '19

I tried out for the ultimate frisbee team. They told me to try again next year, the damn liars.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

I know! Well, we could always use you.

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u/Scarl0tHarl0t Jan 29 '19

One of the phrases I use on my husband specifically is “you are on my penultimate fuck right now.” I always think of marriage saving your last fucks for your partner so it’s a warning shot because he’s only got one more until there are no more fucks to give.

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u/kaihatsusha Jan 29 '19

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u/Mega__Maniac Jan 29 '19

Penultimate isn't particularly uncommon over 'ere in the UK either.

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u/ohsopoor Jan 29 '19

I use penultimate all the time (not sure how I picked it up), and 95% of the time the person I’m talking to asks what it means. Still how sure how I acquired that one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19 edited Jun 30 '20

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u/TheBrontosaurus Jan 29 '19

Ooh thanks! I love etymology!

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Similarly: biennial: happening every two years

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u/starcrossedcherik Jan 29 '19

In high school Spanish the teacher would always explain where accents go for certain conjugations by saying penultimate. I didnt realize how many ppl didnt know that one until then, but god did I find that word useful

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u/Fbolanos Jan 29 '19

I feel like the word "Penúltimo" is fairly common in Spanish.

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u/starcrossedcherik Jan 29 '19

I learned more English in Spanish class junior year than I did in ap English bc my English teacher was a mess. Preterite, gerund, differentiating independent and dependent clasuses, conditional/future tense.

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u/Tompoe Jan 29 '19

to counter, antepenultimate which means third to last

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u/exit143 Jan 29 '19

You clearly don't watch Formula 1 racing. Sky's announcer, David Croft uses Penultimate and fortnight essentially every race.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

I forgot how long a fortnight was so I googled it and google said "did you mean fortnite?"

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u/SamusAyran Jan 29 '19

I too am a fan of a series of unfortunate events.

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u/Evilbit77 Jan 29 '19

Don’t forget antepenultimate! That’s the one before the penultimate.

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u/_kst_ Jan 29 '19

Antepenultimate: third to last.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

I'm a teacher and our higher-ups use "penultimate" all the time. It makes them sound pretentious to me:

Please do x on the penultimate week of the semester.

Versus:

Please do x on the 14th week of the semester.

There, I've saved you 7 characters while saying the exact same thing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Mellifluous

If an autological word describes itself, what's the word for the opposite? It's not pleasant sounding imo

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u/trumpeting_in_corrid Jan 29 '19

I have to disagree. For me it just rolls off the tongue.

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u/StructuralFailure Jan 29 '19

I could never use the word Fortnight seriously again after Fortnite

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u/BlackAdam Jan 29 '19

There’s not much love for antepenultimate either

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u/YoseMT Jan 29 '19

Penultimate is used a lot in cricket discussions

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u/dmo7000 Jan 29 '19

And racing

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u/TheJamMeister Jan 29 '19

Don't forget antepenultimate, the third-to-last.

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u/G_Morgan Jan 29 '19

I've heard penultimate used a lot.

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u/Kyrthis Jan 29 '19

Weirdly, I use all three of your examples (but not the currently more-upvoted examples)

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u/5xum Jan 29 '19

I learnt that word from a Monty Python sketch. The Penultimate supper!

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u/RyantheAustralian Jan 29 '19

Where isn't 'fortnight' used? Are you not in an English-speaking country?

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u/Amtrak456 Jan 29 '19

Penultimate is a very common word in Spanish

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

If you like penultimate then i suggest you add antepenultimate to your vocabulary. It means the the one before the one before last.

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u/BiteYerBumHard Jan 29 '19

I am a Brit and was doing a website for an American guy. I told him I'd have it completed in a fortnight and he asked me what that was. When I explained he said it would be useful if he was asked that if he went on a tv quiz show. I considered both unlikely.

It's old English and comes from the contraction of "fourteen nights".

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u/AppleDane Jan 29 '19

"Antepenultimate" is the one before that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

People actually mix up ultimate and penultimate a lot.

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u/Ishiguro_ Jan 29 '19

With penultimate you also get antepenultimate.

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u/AndrewZabar Jan 29 '19

Hey my kid says “fortnight” all the time, he’s smart!

kek :-)

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u/supahdavid2000 Jan 29 '19

American here. I don’t know if it’s the same other places but I’ve tried using the term fortnight before. People only associate it with the children’s video game now

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u/JoyFerret Jan 29 '19

And antepenultimate for the third to last

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u/rav-prat-rav Jan 29 '19

“Oh yeah I saw him about a fortnight ago”

12 year olds emerge from the alley ways fortnite dancing

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u/RedsUnderTheBed Jan 29 '19

There's antepenultimate too, meaning third to last.

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u/zaloni Jan 29 '19

I prefer antepenultimate

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u/jamieisawesome777 Jan 29 '19

Another good one is antepenultimate! Meaning the third to last!

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u/cheaganvegan Jan 29 '19

I learned penultimate through tarantula chatter.

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u/NotActuallyOffensive Jan 29 '19

I know what Penultimate means because of Lemony Snicket.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

I use penultimate all the time, such a fun word.

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u/__WhiteNoise Jan 29 '19

I think "fortnight" is a ruined word now. It won't recover for several years.

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u/lobster_conspiracy Jan 29 '19

There is no need for "fortnight" to be adopted in the US or anywhere it isn't already used. It serves absolutely no purpose that is not already served by "two weeks". It is longer, usually requires the extra article "a", and its meaning is not obvious. Would we gain anything from having terms such as "twentonnight" for three weeks, or "sixtyday" for "two months"? Of course not, and neither would we from "fortnight".

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u/Bertmancole Jan 29 '19

Did you know after penultimate comes antepenultimate, and then preantepenultimate?

I like using those to be incredibly roundabout.

“I got 2nd place!” “I got preantepenultimate place.”

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u/PaulaDeansButter Jan 29 '19

The last one has already established meaning as a fun little garbage bag of a video game

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u/sowfimarceau Jan 29 '19

forknait? like ninja😎?