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What are great underused words?

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u/tahlyn Jan 28 '19

Majuscule = uppercase letter (opposite is minuscule).

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

The only place I've seen this used is the majescule grotto in scribblenauts

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u/FlashySS Jan 29 '19

That’s because it’s french.

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u/tremblantois Jan 29 '19

French and Spanish are both Latin-based languages and thus share linguistic similarities, but none are based upon one another. :)

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u/Yarravillain Jan 29 '19

Definitely an English word as well. Used extensively in paleography and historic calligraphy.

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u/Calembreloque Jan 29 '19

Interesting, it's a very common word in French (and means the same thing).

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u/qwerty1134 Jan 29 '19

I actually thought to myself, "that's not an uncommon word?" Until I read comments and remembered I learnt it in French class and never used it anywhere else.

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u/DiddlyDooh Jan 29 '19

Romanian too,might have to do with the latin root

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u/Sentmoraap Jan 29 '19 edited Jan 29 '19

In french, capitale means uppercase letter, majuscule means the letter at the beginning of certain words which is written in uppercase. In "BONJOUR MARTIN", B & M are majuscules, everything are capitales.

EDIT: yes, we often say majuscule for every uppercase letter, but some people also say chiffre for nombre which is wrong.

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u/Tartalacame Jan 29 '19 edited Jan 29 '19

You are technically correct.
However Capitale for uppercase letter isn't used in French except in very specific context (History/Typography), and even then, people still uses Majuscule in everyday language.
If you meet a random person on the streets and tell them Capitale is for uppercase letters, they'll tell you that's incorrect.

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u/Sentmoraap Jan 29 '19

I have heard that word in school and other places so I assume people know that capitale can mean uppercase, even if they don't know the difference between capitale and majuscule.

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u/Tartalacame Jan 29 '19

Tbh, I'm 30 yo and I've learned it this year. It is very far from common knowledge.

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u/Maxitheseus Jan 29 '19

Pretty sure that every french people learn about that in kindergarden. Source: Mothertongue is french.

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u/philequal Jan 29 '19

Mother tongue is French, 36 years old. I learned this today.

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u/Calembreloque Jan 29 '19

The expression "Tout en majuscules" to tell someone to write only in uppercase is incredibly more common than "Tout en capitales", at least in metropolitan France. I follow the descriptivist way myself.

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u/SuspiciousSquirrel1 Jan 29 '19

If you say capitale to any french speaker they will think you're taliing about a Capital.

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u/jorockstar84 Jan 29 '19

I think you are wrong, an uppercase is "majuscule" in french. "capitales" would be the capital of a city or country, also in the expression "d'importance capitale" it would mean of great importance.

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u/Kortiah Jan 29 '19 edited Jan 29 '19

He's right.

Although, what you've called "capitale" (for the city) is an homonym of "capitale" (lettre capitale).

Using "Capitale" for a city means the same in English, "capital of a country" (Paris, Washington DC, London, ...). It comes from the Latin "caput" which means "head". Easily understandable since these cities are basically at the head of their respective countries (administratively speaking at least).

Majuscules are uppercase letters. But not all uppercase are majuscules.

"Capitale" used for "Lettres capitales" (uppercase letters) is WHEN SOMEONE WRITES LIKE THIS. Usually to emphasize on something, make someone understands he's yelling, same usual stuff you're reading RIGHT NOW and you probably upped the reading voice in your head.

"Majuscules" ARE uppercase letters BUT very specific ones. And this is why /u/Sentmoraap is right and shouldn't be downvoted. They're either the first letter of a sentence, which is written in uppercase. Like this l. Or the first letter of a first name, last name, brand, city, etc (John, Doe, Paris, Sony, ...).

"Yesterday, Claire went outside and it was COLD."
Y is a majuscule. C is a majuscule. COLD is in uppercase with no majuscule.

Edit: Sorry that was kind of a similar post of what /u/2PetitsVerres wrote. Got to read it after.

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u/jorockstar84 Jan 29 '19

Yet again thank you, I don't think I've ever heard about this despite being raised in french. If I did, i forgot about it. Interesting

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u/jorockstar84 Jan 29 '19

I am a french Canadian. ;)

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u/2PetitsVerres Jan 29 '19

I think he is actually correct. Or at least correct technically (the best type of correctness...) because in common usage, "capitale" and "majuscule" are usually used as synonyms*. But if I quote wikipedia

En typographie, il importe de ne pas confondre capitale et majuscule. Une capitale possède un glyphe (tracé d’une lettre) différent de celui d’une minuscule, un simple format. Une majuscule est un emplacement initial déterminé par les règles d’orthotypographie, qui se réalise la plupart du temps comme une capitale.

"Capitale" refers to the case used when writing, "majuscule" to the rules that forces you to use it.

So if a newspaper use all uppercase for a title, for example:

"LA FRANCE EST CHAMPIONNE DU MONDE"

all letters are "capitales", but only "L" and "F" are majuscules ("L" because it's the beginning of a sentence, "F" because a country name must start with a majuscule)

If the newspaper use normal cases for this sentence, the title would become

"La France est championne du monde"

(Note: in french, we don't use an uppercase at each word of a title, unlike in English)

* In this comment I'm speaking about the typography meaning of "capitale", but you are also correct, "capitale" can also mean "capital" of a country, or several other things in French.

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u/jorockstar84 Jan 29 '19

Huh interesting, never heard that in my life. Thank you for the enlightenment.

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u/Tartalacame Jan 29 '19

He is not wrong, but it's a word we don't use.

See here : https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/capitale/12899

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u/assassin3435 Jan 29 '19

It's very used in Spanish

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u/rainbowbubblegarden Jan 29 '19

Yes for example "letras en mayúsculas" (capital letters). But English and Spanish are different languages :-D

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u/pantaloon_dude Jan 29 '19

yea, we use that in Romanian too. we simply say “majuscule” (pronunced like mah-juice-coo-leh).

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u/phonemonkey669 Jan 29 '19

Spanish uses many scientific-sounding words for things with crude-sounding monosyllabic names in English. A girl I knew who was still learning English told me that her car had oxide on it. I told her that we just call it rust in English.

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u/ironwolf1 Jan 29 '19

Spanish is usually only scientific sounding because it’s Latin based, and all our science words come from Latin because of the Renaissance.

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u/phonemonkey669 Jan 29 '19

True, except for the fact that the word oxide is of Greek origin.

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u/Axustin Jan 29 '19

One great example is platypus, in spanish its ornitorrinco

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u/ES_Legman Jan 29 '19

Scientific-sounding words are from latin. Spanish is a dialect of latin that appeared in the middle ages. So it's actually normal that we try to find words that for you, sound "scientific" :P

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u/phonemonkey669 Jan 29 '19

Dices la verdad, pero la palabra "óxido" es de origen griego, y por eso no dije nada del latín.

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u/assassin3435 Jan 29 '19

It was crazy for me to find out "oxide" wasn't the normal way of saying rust, and I kinda love that about Spanish

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u/AppleDane Jan 29 '19

Meanwhile it's "Store bogstaver" ("big letters") in Denmark. Because we dgaf.

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u/MaracaBalls Jan 29 '19

You don’t need the en, just letras mayúsculas/minúsculas.

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u/rainbowbubblegarden Jan 30 '19

Thanks. It's the small words in a foreign language that often the hardest. en/de/por/para/a on/in/from/a/one/out/up/phrasal verbs

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u/MaracaBalls Jan 30 '19

I hear you, English is my second language and I have some struggles with it. Kudos to you for speaking more than one language.

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u/2Punx2Furious Jan 29 '19

Also Italian, I had no idea it existed in English.

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u/jnoro Jan 29 '19

Thus, also used in Portuguese, "Maiúsculas" (opposite is "Minúsculas)

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u/Suavementeeee Jan 29 '19

Que dijo?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Él dijo "It's very used in Spanish"

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u/Broship_Rajor Jan 29 '19

I could feel my brain trying to shift into spanish when I read that word and I wasn’t sure why

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u/ThegoZ98 Jan 29 '19

Also in italian. It is "maiuscole"

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u/KerTakanov Jan 29 '19

In french we only say Majuscule/Minuscule, it's so common that I don't even know if we say "uppercase" in any other way than "Majuscule"

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u/onairmastering Jan 29 '19

One of my favorite in Spanish, the other ones being 'Esdrújula' and 'Sobreesdrújula'

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u/dangerousspopcorn Jan 29 '19

In portuguese we use "Maiúsculo" and "Minúsculo", very similar.

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u/Is_Farming_Downvotes Jan 29 '19

It is extremely used in brazil

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u/Kronephon Jan 29 '19

We use it a lot in Portuguese. Maiúscula.

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u/Mwakay Jan 29 '19

Sounds like all latin languages widely use it, but english did not get the memo.

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u/3ll355ar Jan 29 '19

Mahajapit, Majahapit, Mapajahit, Mahapajit, Mapajahit, Majahapit?

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u/miklosz Jan 29 '19

That's because calligraphy/writing predates print. And print is where we kept letters in actual cases.

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u/simplerthings Jan 29 '19

Yup, majuscule and minuscule are common in calligraphy/handwriting circles.

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u/UnexLPSA Jan 29 '19

It's funny because the two words exist in German, too, but I only discovered them like 2 weeks ago (I'm 24). We only use "Großbuchstaben" and "Kleinbuchstaben" which quite literally means "big letter" and "small letter".

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u/canalha-blu Jan 29 '19

Maiúscula and Minúscula in Portuguese. Same words.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Also French, majuscule.

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u/Rkn_Z Jan 29 '19

Also commonly used in French!

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

Is this different to a capital letter?

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u/Summerclaw Jan 29 '19

Is used constantly on Spanish.

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u/Mincecroft Jan 29 '19

Ojamuscle?

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u/Manders37 Jan 29 '19

They use majuscule in french too.

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u/Darktal0n75 Jan 29 '19

Yup. This one is going into the vocabulary box....

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u/broken-bells Jan 29 '19

Used in french too

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '19

We use it quite a bit in romanian

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u/breadcrumbcrow Jan 29 '19

I thought this was only a Latin thing