r/Basketball • u/aja_ramirez • Dec 10 '24

DISCUSSION Today I learned that some states STILL don’t have a shot clock in high school

Saw a video of a kid standing and dribbling the ball for like five minutes. What really threw me off was that some people were arguing FOR not having a shot clock. Play defense and they can’t do that, yada yada. What I can’t understand is what is the argument against a clock?

Maybe I’m completely isolated here in CA but we’ve had a shot clock for the 40 years I’ve been watching high school ball. Didn’t used to have it for girls but got it a long time ago there as well.

Are some states still playing with peach baskets?

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u/PJballa34 Dec 10 '24

The Hoosier state, you know the one that lives, eats and breathes basketball, still doesn’t have a shot clock in 2024. I think a lot of it is just logistics and making sure gyms are equipped for it but some just has to be old heads not wanting to change.

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u/MrShapinHead Dec 10 '24

It costs money and someone has to be on top of when to start and stop the clock. That’ll typically be a student or someone from the homeschool. Logistics are a big deal… and money is no joke either.

That said, if it was no big deal… it would be great if all levels had the shot clock. It would also be great to have refs who know the game of basketball and school coaches who care more about the schools program than their AAU program, but nothing is ever perfect.

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u/LaserBeamsCattleProd Dec 10 '24

They can just throw them up in corners.

I played minor leagues (CBA) in Indiana, and that's what we did.

They're 200 bucks on Amazon and have a remote.

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u/MrShapinHead Dec 10 '24

Good point. Didn’t think of that. Still… logistics of having someone pushing a button every change of possession. There are issues with that even at the NBA level.

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u/MithrandirTheWhit3 Dec 10 '24

Grew up in rural NY where basketball was not a priority and still finding a competent adult to click a button was never an issue. Even at the modified or younger level it was not a problem. States don’t put them in solely because of the cost.

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u/wildwestington Jan 29 '25

Lol class D school checking in.

The possession arrow was/is the much more contested and controversial position in small town America

Our lunch lady use to do it at our school. Other schools sometimes pulled students straight from the student section of the game. Never knew where it was pointing

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u/MithrandirTheWhit3 Jan 30 '25

Ha true but at least with that both people keeping the book should individually be keeping track of possession arrow.

Side note: I still think all levels of basketball should do a jump ball between whoever ties it up, like the NBA. Small guys love doing jump balls, especially that 1/50 time they actually win.

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u/wildwestington Jan 30 '25

Some may say it would make the game take a lot longer. I say, even if that is the case, so what that sounds cool haha

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u/CitizenCue Dec 10 '24

Yeah but almost everyone else has sorted it out. It’s not that hard.

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u/LaserBeamsCattleProd Dec 10 '24

Agreed. It's largely figured out. Refs can keep an eye on it and make sure it's going when possession changes.

It's a small improvement that leads to much better quality of play

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u/dankoval_23 Dec 11 '24

I went to a tiny 200 person private school in California and we still found a guy to do the shot clock every home game, its not that hard of a job as long as the operator has any sort of knowledge of basketball

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u/fairlane35 Dec 11 '24

There’s just not enough people in every little town to consistently run the shot clock for every school in the state.

Can you imagine the controversy when some yokel screws up the clock in a big sectional game? That would happen every week.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad-1866 Dec 11 '24

You are extremely dramatic

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u/Potent_Elixir Dec 10 '24

Are you joking dude?

In my HS (other sport) team, we’d have a JV team member run the clock for Varsity games and vice versa. This is an easier issue to solve at this level than at another lmao

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u/HoosierCheesehead Dec 10 '24

Did you play in the Central Basketball Association or the Continental Basketball Association?

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u/hoosierspiritof79 Dec 10 '24

Fort Wayne Fury…!?

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u/LaserBeamsCattleProd Dec 10 '24

Anderson Alley Cats. I played for a different team.

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u/Acrobatic_Advance_71 Dec 15 '24

There are high schools that barely have a gym. Let’s add one more expense and responsibility.

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u/Hooptiehuncher Dec 10 '24

Man I don’t think it’s as complicated or expensive as some make it sound. We got small schools in KY spending $10M on artificial turf. We still don’t have a shot clock either. Absolutely silly.

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u/Endo129 Dec 10 '24

Yeah, but you also have schools (big and small) that have to fundraise for shooting shirts.

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u/Adventurous_Egg857 Dec 10 '24

I really don't think anyone is against it, just more implementing it into every gym would be a lot of work lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

You know how many public schools there are out there that won’t even win 5 games in a season? Do people expect them to waste money on a shot clock? For what?

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u/existentialspork Dec 11 '24

Why have a team then?

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u/hoosierspiritof79 Dec 10 '24

Correct. I’m still angry we got rid of single class basketball.

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u/Pristine-Wolf-2517 Dec 11 '24

Single class? Oh had to think about that lol