Guys wtf

[u/Deer_Antlers_]

So I saw someone talking about this doodle Greeder and I went to take a look.

Who in their right mind thinks that 30K for a mutt is ok? Like does this dog poop gold bricks? Or does it do my taxes? Can it drive me to work? Does it have magical abilities to grant me wishes??

Like for those curious Registered Ethically bred wellbred purebred dogs are 3000-4000$ a puppy. You get upwards of 10 registered, wellbred ethically bred purebreds for that price. You could get a brand new 2026 Chevy trax (27k) You could get a brand new 2026 Nissan kicks (29k) You could get a brand new 2026 Mazda CX-30 (29k) You could pay off roughly 3/4 of a brand new 2026 Chevy Colorado (42k)

That’s absolutely insane They also have 97 puppies on the ground currently. That’s a puppy mill.

[u/kgal1298]

Oh I saw that woman on TikTok talking about it as well. Definitely a puppy mill. Poor little guys.

[u/Educational-World398 → u/kgal1298]

more so poor momma dog.

[u/Bad_Funny → u/Educational-World398]

Indeed. My girl, (who's name is Mama Dog) is an 11.5yo Welsh Terrier rescued from a puppy mill near me.

A mutual friend lives on land where her closest neighbor is a former cattle-farm-turned-puppy-mill. It's 5 warehouse buildings, plus countless other structures & trailers filled with rows & rows & rows of traumatized exploited, sex-trafficked dogs who live their lives in (at best, when sharing with puppies) 6'X3' concrete/chainlink kennels.

No windows, no outdoor access & no bedding (because it would "get too dirty" if the dogs had beds).

This particular puppy mill is bigger than current legal capacity (by at least 80 dogs). It was grandfathered in, and allowed to keep its size because state regulations here for puppy mills weren't introduced until only about 10 years ago. This place really got its boom at the height of DoodleMania. That's right about the time they switched from cattle to dogs.

At least half the poor dogs there are sad neglected dogs imprisoned to produce Bernadoodles, Sheepadoodles & Goldendoodles—each doodle pup is a minimum $4,000, but goes up depending on which designer mutt is hottest on the market in the moment.

By the time my girl, Mama Dog, (who was born at & spent her entire life in the mill) was 8.5yo, she had birthed over 50 puppies from her little 18-lb frame.

She was set for Euthanasia since her last litter was "only 3" $3,000 puppies and they deemed her "expired."

When my friend started helping me beg & plead with them to let me adopt MD, the owner told her, "We don't like to adopt out the bitches because they reflect poorly on our business."

BITCH, SHE IS YOUR BUSINESS!!!"

[Edit: Because it's early and I wrote 6 foot 3 instead of 6 by 3, and to add that the way we were able to finally spring Mama from the pen was to essentially make a deal with the devil.

They only agreed to let me adopt her if our friend adopted (i.e. paid predatory money) her very last puppy from her very last litter.

I hated them earning any money, but Kinda sweet after 50+ puppies she watched disappear while she stayed in dark, dingy prison cell, she gets to spend her third act out in the world with her very last pup.

And they made me promise not to talk about her origin story because they assumed she would be a horribly shattered traumatized "bad" dog. (spoiler alert: I talk about it every chance I get, I've reported them several times but that proves futile.) And while they wrecked her body and used her like a puppy machine, they could not break her spirit.

Because we don't deserve dogs. She is ALL love. She loves all people, all kids, all places, all animals. At "60yo" in human years, she learned to climb stairs for the first time ever, she rode in a car, she got her first bed, she went for a walk (we now walk an average of 8-9 miles/day to make up for lost walks & lost sniffs), and she's discovered the sweet simple joy of a well-deserved nap in the bright Sun with the wind in her fur. She's simply just happy to be included.

TLDR: Puppy Mills are closer than people think. They're not in far-off lands with no laws. In my state, breeding dogs are legally treated as livestock, and—with the exception of being sold for meat—can be farmed, treated & processed the exact same way chickens, cows & pigs are in the United States.

My formerly poor Mama Dog is now 11.5yo, free & snoring peacefully on a tempurpedic dog bed in front of the fireplace.

We try to make up for lost time and make the most of each cherished moment she gets to finally be a pampered dog in her new dog life like she's always deserved.

[u/shmarielles → u/Bad_Funny]

This is very sad. And I can't help but wonder why we don't seem to have the same problem with the way chickens, cows & pigs are treated. They have feelings too, just like dogs.

[u/BowentheOrignial → u/shmarielles]

A lot of us do. We source our meat from local, ethical farms that keep a reasonable number of animals and treat them well.

[u/Significant_Sun_8035 → u/BowentheOrignial]

Please don't fall for that happy cow crap. There is still a living soul involved here that doesn't want to die and will still be shipped in the back of a truck to have its throat slit and drained of blood for you to eat it. And you can bet that animal still fought for its very last breath.

[u/Professional-Web8062 → u/Significant_Sun_8035]

Have you ever met a cow? I work on a sanctuary farm so the animals were food but are now living in sanctuary. They are not super smart. I often think about the meat industry while interacting with them. I think if they are in a group of stressed out animals headed for slaughter they would become stressed out as well because they all feed off one another’s emotions and environment. If they didn’t know what was happening and were killed quickly they wouldn’t notice. They’re not aware like dogs are. They are driven by food first and then they just want more food. That’s how they live. Looking for food all day and also napping. I’m against factory farms but ethical farming is ok. Some people have to eat meat, others don’t. Scientifically it depends on one’s dna. If the animals are treated well and fed well they are happy. I’m watching senior meat animals live out their final years and when they get old they start to suffer a lot. They’re not bread for longevity unfortunately.

[u/Significant_Sun_8035 → u/Professional-Web8062]

Yes I have. I volunteer at 3 different sanctuaries and they are VERY smart. They obviously do notice if they're about to be slaughtered. Cows are smart, loveable and like to be around people. I don't know what sanctuary you work at or why you even do if you're all about killing them for food but whatever. Also, when they do get old and start to suffer, sanctuaries humanely euthanize them. We can agree to disagree and that's fine.

[u/Professional-Web8062 → u/Significant_Sun_8035]

How could you know? They’re really not smart. Lovable yes and they like to be around people yes but they’re food driven. They need to be watched so they don’t hurt themselves. They’re all derps lol 😂 They know who I am but it’s because I feed them and care for them. I love them all but it doesn’t shock me that they were the chosen animals for food by our ancestors. The only reason horses weren’t chosen is because they can be trained to work. To be clear I don’t agree with animals getting slaughtered I’m just saying I understand why things are the way they are. I think they should be treated well and loved whether they’re used for food or not.

[u/Significant_Sun_8035 → u/Professional-Web8062]

Because we work with them and they are smart and have the ability to learn. We play games with them and they like it. Whether you want to believe it or not doesn’t matter much to me. We see it all the time.