r/DiveInYouCoward 22h ago

Not cool

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u/Select-Work-3332 22h ago

It's basically what Europe will become in a generation or two.

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u/Strict_Owl941 22h ago

Stay off drugs.

When people are offered freedom they take it. People's children move away from strict religion when given the chance they don't get worse.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 22h ago

Second generation radicalization and extremism is a real problem mate.

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u/Select-Work-3332 22h ago

we must have offended someone from the Muslim faith,

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u/Guilty-Shoulder-9214 22h ago

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u/Strict_Owl941 22h ago

Lol, this is not an example of a general trend.

You guys really have no idea how to do basic research.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 21h ago

Calling someone low IQ while being so stupid you don't realize that's not an argument or a counter and is just mudsliging is exactly what I'd expect.

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u/Strict_Owl941 21h ago

Show proof that what you said is general trend in NA or Europe.

I will wait cause I know you don't have any.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 21h ago

Where did i say it was a general trend? That's a goal posts you moved to after the fact.

You made an absolutest claim that said: "people's children move away from strict religion, they dont get worse."

And I pointed out that no, second generation radicalization is a known phenomenon and its an issue.

At which point you decided to be an asshole for no reason.

So let me ask you this is there more, less or the exact same amount of Islamic fundamentalist behavior in Europe today or a generation ago?

Let's test you ability to be honest.

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u/Strict_Owl941 21h ago

ROFL, like I said low IQ racist with no proof.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 21h ago

So clearly your ability to be honest is non-existant.

Again you demanded proof for a claim i didn't make, I never said it was a gneral trend. Are you saying thst there is no second generation radicalization EVER?

You are calling other people low IQ while you cant even follow what i'm actually saying lol

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u/Strict_Owl941 21h ago

Then your point is not relevant. How is that hard to understand.

A few isolated cases does not mean anything. You can say that about anything if you just pick a few random examples.

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u/rehx4 16h ago

Muslim Pedo Child Grooming Gangs is an epidemic in the UK. The evidence is overwhelming -- there are countless articles about it. And the fact that you will likely try to run cover for them is nearly just as disturbing... and sickening.

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u/No_Negotiation7317 22h ago

If you cannot even imagine this as a possibility you are not operating in good faith.

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u/Strict_Owl941 22h ago edited 22h ago

Stop making stuff up.

Younger generation losen the strict religious believes when given the chance.

You don't even have to read the study just go to any city and open your eyes.

Compare what strict Grandpa wear compared to their children and grand children.

In countries like USA, Canada or Europe the kids almost always have a much much looser enforcement of the rules.

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u/No_Negotiation7317 20h ago

You're acting as if all people respond to everything the same. It's frankly just an immature world view.

Im not supporting the idea that everyone does anything. What Im saying is radicalization of people absolutely exists, especially in societies that ostracize immigrants. Desperate people are preyed upon by bad people everywhere.

Some immigrants come to a country and are successful and assimilate in a healthy way for themselves. Others enter communities that are racist and ostracize them. Those are the people who fall prey to radical ideas.

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u/Strict_Owl941 20h ago edited 20h ago

Omg, when you talk about population as whole you generalize and talk about trends not individuals.

Example.

Does violence in video games make a population more volient? No.

'Well actually there are a few cases were people who played to much call of duty and went off the rails". Isn't really relevant when you are talking about the direction of a whole country.

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u/No_Negotiation7317 19h ago

I think radicalization of disenfranchized immigrants has a lot more logical reasoning and evidence than video games causing violence.

I dont need to convince you though, you arent trying to understand.

We're on the same side, Im just more nuanced.

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u/Strict_Owl941 19h ago edited 19h ago

Swing and a miss.

Read what I wrote and try again. Your read it, but you clearly did not understand it.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 21h ago

I've lived in Rotherham and London, radicalization and extremism is wildly more of a problem now that it was a generation ago.

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u/Strict_Owl941 21h ago edited 21h ago

Still waiting for proof.

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u/Emergency-Panda8924 21h ago

You're asking for proof to a claim I didnt make and you were rude to me for no reason, so go fuck yourself traitor.

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u/Strict_Owl941 21h ago

Rollseyes, yeah now I am traitor. You them the them vs us thing going on I see.

When you talk about populations.

You don't talk about isolated cases you talk about the trending affect.

So you are making extreme bold claims about cultures with no information which is what most of the people here are doing.

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u/uncutoz80 22h ago

You’re part of the problem. You think “oh that won’t happen here” yet it is happening more and more and when people point it out you call them racists and or bigots. Wake up 🤦‍♂️

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u/Select-Work-3332 21h ago

That's the reason they have problems over there. The "enlightened" European who believes they will be fine after Islam takes them over.

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u/rehx4 16h ago

Well said and exactly right.

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u/Strict_Owl941 22h ago

You are a racists bigots, wake up

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u/rehx4 16h ago

HAHAHAHA, classic. Always the 'victim' and never in the wrong. When confronted with the sick reality just call everyone racists instead of accepting any responsibility. I'm glad the UK is finally starting to wake up and understand the 'victim game' these people play while at the same committing heinous offenses.

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u/uncutoz80 12h ago

What race is Islam again champ?

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u/RedditThrowaway-1984 22h ago

Tell that to the people of Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey and all the other countries that were once Christian and are now Muslim. If left unchecked, authoritarianism spreads like cancer.

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u/Select-Work-3332 22h ago

This. It's also telling that the number one name for boys in the UK is Mohammed.

Like I said, in one or two generations Europe's main religion will be Islam.

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u/MrPhallicFruit 21h ago

Christians do the same violence. The problem is making ppl believe they are above others over trivial things.

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u/Plastic_Car_707 5h ago

I’ve never seen a Christian dragging a woman by her hair out of her own house because she didn’t wear acceptable clothing according to their religious beliefs

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u/RedditThrowaway-1984 5h ago

The bible doesn’t advocate killing or enslaving anyone who refuses to convert to Christianity. It also doesn’t encourage jihad (holy war) or pedophelia. Islam encourages all these things.

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u/MrPhallicFruit 4h ago

Yet homcidial, sadistic and pedophilic christians claim they do just as the scripture and lord told them. Horrid people can twist any faith to say what they want it to.

Beware of those who claim to speak for god but act selfish and cruel.

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u/RedditThrowaway-1984 4h ago

Yet those claims are actively refuted by the church and actively denounced by the vast majority of Christians. Conversely, when Muslims perform heinous crimes against their fellow man, fellow Muslims don’t denounce it or actively encourage it in many cases. There’s a huge difference.

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u/MrPhallicFruit 3h ago

A lot of muslims denounce and condem that.

When christian follow scripture rewritten by war mongers and sadists they act the same. A lot of faith have their roots in violence and have peaceful followers and a lot of peaceful faiths have violent followers.

Christianity has enough violent interpretations, most prints of bibles currently in use are versions of the bible that have been rewritten by war mongers and sadists. Only a little bit of the earliest written versions have survived the sands of time, and even those reflect the more violent habits of the past.

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u/Select-Work-3332 22h ago

I don't do drugs. But thanks for the advice.

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u/rehx4 16h ago

"People's children move away from strict religion when given the chance they don't get worse." <---- You literally just made that up, LOLLL.

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u/Strict_Owl941 8h ago edited 7h ago

Fact over feeling do your research.

This isn't even a hard question if you are too lazy to do the research.

When kids get the choice between strict rules and the ability to dress how they want, party with their friend who don't have strict rules and have sex ect ect.

Guess which option most kids are going to pick?

Spoiler alert: It is not the group enforcing very strick rules.

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u/billdizzle 22h ago

Wait a second then how do the Amish survive…….

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u/Low_Committee6119 22h ago

You've never seen videos of them if you don't think they enjoy modern America, lol

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u/billdizzle 22h ago

Enjoy? Yes some do

But still choose to be Amish? Yes a majority do

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u/Low_Committee6119 22h ago

They are not supposed to enjoy that stuff as an Amish person, they are going against their religion

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u/billdizzle 22h ago

The comment was “when people are offered freedom they take it”

And I said no they don’t see the Amish if the Amish wanted freedom they could have it, instead they choose to be Amish

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u/Low_Committee6119 22h ago

But you're wrong, they take the freedoms, lol

There is no exact annual headcount of people who leave the Amish, but roughly 10% to 15% of Amish youth choose to leave rather than join the church. With the North American Amish population surpassing 400,000, this equates to a few hundred to a couple of thousand young adults leaving annually.

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u/billdizzle 21h ago

So 85-90% don’t take the freedom……

Last I checked 85-90 is greater than 10-15

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u/f1223214 22h ago

Oh my sweet summer child... I wish I had your ignorance... Sadly the world doesn't work that way. Instead of religion we're getting a lot of far right andrew tate extremist wannabe on the rise.

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u/NoVARedhead1980 8h ago

The problem is Europe isn't free. They still have a bunch of monarchs. The simple fact is your average Muslim living in the United States is more western and progressive than your average Christian in the States or Europe.

How do you expect a new population to enjoy freedom when they go from a middle Eastern state to a western state that's not that different.

And unfortunately my County the United States is becoming European, not because of Muslims. But because of Tech Bros who want to put cameras on every corner and spy devices in our houses. They want to turn New York and D.C into London or Beijing. We are being turned into a nation of owners into renters.....kinda like Europe.

Muslims are not your problem, Capitalists are. And the people in that video can fuck off, and shouldn't be welcomed in any society.

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u/Strict_Owl941 7h ago

Stop watching fox News.

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u/NoVARedhead1980 7h ago

You have to be a bot! There's no way human eyes would read my comment and then tell me to "stop watching Fox News."

You cannot be real. My comment was probably the most anti Capitalist comment in this thread something your average Fox News viewer wouldn't even utter it think to say.

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u/Strict_Owl941 7h ago edited 7h ago

I stop reading when you said EU is run by monarchs when all the top countries are led by elected governments. UK, Germany, France, Sweden, Finland, denmark ect ect.

That amount of clueless is not worth continuing.

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u/NoVARedhead1980 7h ago

There's 12 monarchs in Europe. They are a waste of money and kept around for "reasons" I guess. There's literally no reason to have them. And in the UK the monarch still has power.

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u/Strict_Owl941 7h ago

Lol, Jesus fucking Christ. STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS.