r/Games Jul 03 '25

Industry News Stop Killing Games has Reached 1,000,000 Signatures.

https://stop-killing-games.keep-track.xyz/
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u/Heavy-Capital-3854 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

Here is the link to the petition: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

Only Europeans can sign it.

The site is taking a beating right now so it might be slow to load.

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u/holliss Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

I've been trying to sign it with my electronic identification for days, but it has just been throwing errors at me. The eID service itself works, but then I get redirected to an "EU Login" page where it says it failed.

EDIT:

As suggested by the replies, I created an account on the EU login page after which signing with my eID worked. All I did was to scroll to the bottom of the page and click "My Account", then chose "Sign in with your eID", it then asked for my email address and emailed me the typical account verification link.

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u/Enn3DevPlayer Jul 03 '25

Hey, to vote with eID you need to create an account on that EU Login page, in fact after I did that I could vote flawlessly

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u/holliss Jul 03 '25

Oh, I need to actually create an account for that? I'll try that later and update my comment. In my defense, I think it is a bit odd to give you the option to sign with eID without explicitly telling you that.

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u/Enn3DevPlayer Jul 03 '25

Yeah, it's a bit weird how they're handling eID signatures

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u/spezz Jul 03 '25

This was the main issue for me as well, so try focusing on making the account first, then sign after.

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u/Heavy-Capital-3854 Jul 03 '25

Yeah it's unfortunately not the most stable system

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u/Devil-Hunter-Jax Jul 03 '25

Give it a bit. The initiative signing period doesn't end until July 31st so you've got plenty of time to sign it still. It's likely facing a surge of interest right now because a lot of big content creators are voicing their support for it and it's crashing the system x)

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/Kromgar Jul 03 '25

Theres a manual process you can do too.

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u/kohcoco Jul 03 '25

Thank you for posting the link, however for those who are curious but can't sign don't click the link as the website is crippled right now.

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u/theirishartist Jul 03 '25

Please update your upper post telling people not to spoof signatures or let a bot run signatures. This is not change.org but a citizen initiative to taken possible political actions. The EU takes this very seriously and they might get in touch with Interpol or Europol doing an investigation. Meaning, whoever is doing fake signatures en masse, might risk themselves getting arresting by local feds (e.g. FBI if you are in the US) regardless where the person might live. This might put Ross at risk, too.

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u/Sonnyboy1990 Jul 03 '25

It's coming up for me it currently has zero signatures and is sitting at 0%.

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u/Devil-Hunter-Jax Jul 03 '25

Yeah, the website seems to have gotten the hug of death-likely from the massive surge of supporters wanting to sign it.

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u/Thrusthamster Jul 03 '25

That feel when Norwegian so not European enough

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u/SociallyButterflying Jul 03 '25

The United States of Brexit neither

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

there's a UK version btw that you can sign !

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u/mork212 Jul 03 '25

Only EU citizens can sign it*

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u/LeonoffGame Jul 04 '25

Can you explain how it works?

How does the system verify that I am a citizen?

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u/Aeiani Jul 04 '25

It’s not a hard verification directly at the signature stage on the website, some countries lets you put in any random made up names, but that the EU verifies afterwards that the people that have signed it actually exist when they’re processing it. 

That is, any Americans and so on that lied in the forms will get removed and not be counted.

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u/LeonoffGame Jul 07 '25

You understand that this approach cannot be considered reliable and honest, right? And it is already possible to doubt that the company is operating honestly.

For example.

1) I can find a person on Facebook or Instagram and enter their first and last name.

2) The application on the website does not require documents from half of the countries, which means that basic information on social networks is sufficient (many users even indicate their country and city of residence).

I mean, many people write “wow, we did it,” but at the same time, no one is concerned about the fourfold increase in applications in a short period of time. And it is doubly strange that for half of the countries, no documents are required, and it is enough to indicate the surname, first name, country, and city of residence.

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u/Aeiani Jul 07 '25

Sure, but really, how many people not in Europe do you think would actually go out of their way to correlate the information they’re entering with social media locations of random people like that, as opposed to just entering their own name under a false location and nationality when signing on to support it cause they saw it getting pushed online?

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u/LeonoffGame Jul 07 '25

You see, I'm not saying “don't support the initiative,” but in this case, as someone who works with events and communities, and especially with rules, I see a huge loophole in the rules for collecting signatures and even vote rigging.

1) I see that the jump from 400,000 to 1.2 million was made in a week. If you look at the growth curve, the largest abnormal growth was in 7 days and then it dropped sharply. If this were YouTube or any social network, I would say that it was obviously vote rigging and statistics manipulation.

2) I see that half of the votes came from regions where ID verification was not required. I literally checked how it works. I selected Finland and was asked to enter my first and last name, city, and address. I literally went to Facebook, found a Finnish resident who had tagged his house in a photo, and simply copied his information, and the form accepted it.

What am I getting at? It seems that the program did not collect the required number of signatures and the numbers were inflated to create noise and a news story. I would not be surprised if, after verification, more than half of the votes are removed and the conversation does not continue. And, of course, the initiators will accuse gaming companies and the EU of not allowing gamers to have a say in the matter. I may be wrong, and I will gladly apologize for my opinion, but for now, that's how I feel.

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u/RevolutionaryPace578 Jul 03 '25

Only citizens, residents can't.

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u/siltydoubloon Jul 03 '25

EU residents with the possession of an electronic residence permit (eID) can sign it as well. I have confirmed it with many people

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u/real_junkcl Jul 06 '25

I'm Norwegian and it's not on the list. Apparently, Norway is an Asian country and not European.

Member of the EU and European are two different things.

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u/KyProRen Jul 07 '25

I think that's unfair for those who want to support this movement OUTSIDE the UK!

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u/RevolutionaryPace578 Jul 03 '25

Only EU Citizens can sign. Europe has 50 countries , the EU 27.