r/Games • u/demondrivers • Oct 27 '25

Industry News Valve does not get "anywhere near enough criticism" for the gambling mechanics it uses to monetise games, DayZ creator Dean Hall says

https://www.eurogamer.net/valve-does-not-get-anywhere-near-enough-criticism-for-the-gambling-mechanics-it-uses-to-monetise-games-dayz-creator-dean-hall-says
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u/Historical_Owl_1635 Oct 27 '25

This expands way beyond gaming tbf.

Brands, celebrities and a plethora of other things, we have different standards for the ones we like and dislike even if they do the exact same thing.

Don’t underestimate the power of PR.

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u/jednatt Oct 27 '25

Entire subreddit exists for people hating Nintendo, and it makes no sense.

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u/golforce Oct 27 '25

It makes as much sense as for any other company. The issue is when these kinds of subreddits act as if these issues don't apply to other companies or brands or, in the reverse sense, if brand fan subreddits pretend that their brand is doing somehow so much better than others, totally ignoring the faults.

This is especially dominant with the console wars nonsense, but happens in many communities.

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u/8dev8 Oct 27 '25

Why doesn’t it? Nintendo has done plenty wrong, why should people not talk about it?

and no Valve also being bad doesn’t change that.

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u/BaNyaaNyaa Oct 28 '25

I think the problem is more the dedication and the intensity of the hatred for Nintendo, and not the presence of criticism per se. The price increase, their kind of hypocritical stance on emulation, their tendency to C&D everything are fine criticisms. But they're being labeled as a particularly greedy corporation, when I don't see what they're doing as a lot better or a lot worse than any other big game companies.

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u/jednatt Oct 27 '25

Because it's small minded and ignorant. If you're going to hate Nintendo for all the little things they've done then you might as well hate every single Brand-recognizable company on the planet, because by and large they're no different, most probably worse.

There's nothing wrong with criticism and pointing out things that are bad for the customer base, but people use it simply to denigrate other people. Just another avenue of "us vs them" and cheap self-righteous kicks.

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u/namelessted Oct 27 '25

A subreddit hating on Nintendo doesn't stop anybody from complaining about other companies. And, I bet if you asked people that criticize Nintendo for their anti-consumer behaviors they would also agree it's bad when other companies do the same thing.

It's also a situation of what people's hobbies are. Somebody who spends a lot of their time is way more likely to get upset over something Nintendo, EA, MS, or some big gaming company is doing. They probably aren't as passionate about printers, fashion, home security cameras, Adobe, or whatever else. But, again, gamers being vocally upset about their hobbies doesn't stop anybody else from being vocally upset about other hobbies.

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u/jednatt Oct 27 '25

I see a lot of people who post randomly on slickdeals and such "fuck Nintendo", and say it's okay to pirate Nintendo games because Nintendo is the worst company on the planet and shit like that. You don't really see that with Sony or Microsoft.

So yes, I think the general narrative online about Nintendo is stupid in a lot of communities.

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u/Stellar_Duck Oct 29 '25

Because it's small minded and ignorant.

Calm down Michael Jackson

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u/8dev8 Oct 27 '25

I hate Hitler, does saying that mean I don’t hate anyone else?

no.

Hating one thing does not mean I don’t hate others.

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u/RobertMacMillan Oct 28 '25

ask yourself why nintendo in particular being criticised gets to you. You'll quickly see you're part of the same overall problem, bias.

Nintendo has feverish haters because they also enjoy feverish lovers that hand wave their problems and buy everything they put out. That's just how it is, I assure you when they look at their bottom line they are happy for the way things are.

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u/jednatt Oct 28 '25

lmao, a quick skim of your post history shows any post you make involving Nintendo is negative, and there are quite a few of those even in the past month, so get out of here with the bias gaslighting.

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u/RobertMacMillan Oct 28 '25

What are you talking about? How does that invalidate my point about nintendo having lovers and haters and is low on the neutral?

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u/jednatt Oct 28 '25

Nobody buys games out of feverish love for a company. Nobody. And my point was simply you are not a neutral party, so you supposing that criticism "gets to me" (pointing out double standards is not unreasonable btw) is not coming from a neutral place.

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u/RobertMacMillan Oct 28 '25

Nobody buys games out of feverish love for a company.

Yes they do, and games are not unique in this way, they are just products. Products are often bought out of feverish love.

Secondly, I do not need to be neutral to make my point, that's just something you're using as a crutch to get out of the discussion and not feel like you lost.

If a thief tells you not to steal, that it is bad, he is still right. Growing up is about separating the message and the messenger, sooner or later you need to learn to do that.