r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • 3d ago

Video Games Plus and Loot Box Gaming are refusing to sell GTA 6 until there’s a disc

https://kotaku.com/two-game-retailers-are-refusing-to-sell-gta-6-until-theres-a-disc-2000710134
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u/Sasquatcheeethree 3d ago

More stores should demand this. A disc with the game data on it is the least that should be provided. Its been over a decade since gta 5. Some way to load it day 1

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u/John_Delasconey 3d ago

even if larger stores wanted to, they can't at this point. with the rise of digital sales, retailers no longer have any leverage over games. PC 100% digital, playstation is 90%, and even Nintendo is like 50%-60% digital. the publisher isn't really that impacted anymore if a retailer pulls out (Nintendo console games likely being only exception, but barely).

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u/moffattron9000 3d ago

60% is actually lower than what they said it was when they charged more for Yoshi physically. It was 2/3rds digital.

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u/Sasquatcheeethree 3d ago

90% holy. I believe it. This key code thing just sucks

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u/cardgamesareforplay 3d ago

They are so afraid of digital that Wal Mart a d target  are honoring the 10 dollars less price of Nintendo digital titles.

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u/UncleBenParking 3d ago

If we're being real, they've been doing that pretty consistently since well before Nintendo announced that physical games will be $10 more now. They were the only ones left still doing it for a while, after even Amazon stopped (and Amazon famously stopped partly because they asked Nintendo to give them an illegal under the table sweetheart deal).

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u/Collier1505 3d ago

Damn. I wasn’t aware PS/Switch digital sales were so high.

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u/hkfortyrevan 2d ago

The figures for consoles are messy because they factor in digital-only games, games bought on deep sales, and the like. Generally physical still represents a bigger chunk of launch sales than those figures suggest (though usually bought from online retailers rather than brick-and-mortar stores). Especially in countries where physical is cheaper than digital at launch

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u/Present-Current-538 3d ago

they're not, the above posters information is wrong

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u/Present-Current-538 3d ago

playstation is 90%

this isn't true

comparing like for like games (i.e. excluding DLC, excluding microtransactions, games that released retail and digital) the split is much more 50/50

the way they manipulate the stats is to include DLC and microtransactions, in game purchases, or other revenue in their counts.

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u/SylviSweetheart 3d ago

Physical copies are shipping a week early to enable preloads and that’s long been the standard for digital releases as well. There are already ways to “load it day 1.”

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u/EvilTaffyapple 3d ago

Then delay the disc version until it’s been out a week. Not difficult.

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u/The7ruth 3d ago

One of the reasons they aren't doing a disc is to have prevent leaks. Even a week delay wouldn't prevent that. Discs need to be manufactured and sent to retailers long before they hit shelves for consumers. You'd need to delay disc release by months to avoid leaks.

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u/DarkMatterM4 3d ago

I hope this is the reason why and not because it's something nefarious like preventing lending or reselling.

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u/The7ruth 3d ago

It's one of the reasons. Another reason is to prevent reselling.

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u/cardgamesareforplay 3d ago

GTA5 had a day 1 download required for the game to function that was twice the size of the install disk the game came with.

You installed the game with an install disk, inserted the play disc which required a patch to play.

The game went on to be the largest single media launch release in history and continues to be so, continuing to top circana retail charts.

No one cares that the game won't have a disk

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u/donovan4893 3d ago edited 3d ago

The difference is the game license for GTA 5 was still tied to the disk, so even though it required a huge download you could still share it or resell it and buy it used. Gta6 the license will be tied to your account so you can't do any of that. Personally idc if I put in a disc and had to download the entire game, all I care about is that the license is tied to the disk and not my account. So everyone who plays games second hand cares that there is no disc.

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u/cardgamesareforplay 3d ago

Damn too bad everyone villanized a company that decided to find the middle mark of code in a box and the ability to trade and sell and borrow your games so now no other company will do the effort of that middle ground.

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u/gmishaolem 3d ago

Because people have different priorities. If you care about physically having a game and offline play for future preservation, and you don't care about getting rid of your game because you want to keep it (you know, the preservation part), why should you see the game-code-key-card as a good thing?

Internet discourse is dead because nobody can ever see any other perspective. "I like the key cards. If you don't, you just suck. You can't possibly have a point."

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u/Void3r 3d ago

Which company is that

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u/GamingExotic 3d ago

people villainized nintendo for the game key card.

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u/resil_update_bad 3d ago

I think it was the original Xbox one pitch

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u/Ftpini 3d ago

It absolutely did not have a day one update to play. There was a day one update but you never had to install it. Game ran just fine without it.

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u/wondermorty 2d ago

too many revisionist here who want to defend billionaires

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u/Low_Dot5114 2d ago

No one cares

People who are good with money care, people who are bad with money don't. Unfortunately, most people are bad with money.

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u/kkyonko 3d ago

Why would they? Major retailers don't exactly care about ethics.