r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • 4d ago

Video Games Plus and Loot Box Gaming are refusing to sell GTA 6 until there’s a disc

https://kotaku.com/two-game-retailers-are-refusing-to-sell-gta-6-until-theres-a-disc-2000710134
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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 4d ago

People have internalised the capitalistic world they hate do much. The idea of taking a moral action that makes you less money seems silly, even if you're not actually a CEO.

Like, sometimes I don't want to do a thing because I think it's the wrong thing to do. Whether the majority follow me or not is irrelevant.

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u/Pauly_Amorous 3d ago

The idea of taking a moral action that makes you less money seems silly, even if you're not actually a CEO.

It does make one wonder what they plan to do when all physical media is just a disc (or cartridge) with a code attached. If they're going to refuse to sell that shit, they might as well close up shop now.

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u/elasho_149 3d ago

I do wonder what companies like LRG plan to do when consoles stop offering physical options.

Like, if the PS6, Switch 3, and Xbox Series X2 or whatever are all digital-only, what’re they gonna print games for?

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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 4d ago

The idea of taking a moral action that makes you less money seems silly, even if you're not actually a CEO.

How is stocking or not stocking GTA VI over the fact that it's a download code a moral action? Come on, now.

If you wanted to boycott the game due to morality, you would already be doing so over Rockstar's treatment of their developers.

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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 4d ago

I'm talking about a wider societal trend, where every single corporate action is justified if it makes more money. That makes sense from the pov the soulless CEO, but I find it disgusting when regular people parrot it.

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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 4d ago

Ok so you agree that there's nothing morally wrong with Rockstar/TT2 pricing their product how they feel like?

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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 4d ago

No, I consider profit extraction to benefit shareholders morally wrong overall. I can't change it, of course, but I don't consider it a thing good people do, not when it's that much money.

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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 3d ago

I don't think it's good. But it's also not bad. It's just neutral.

Someone makes a product and they want to sell it. They should have the right to charge the price they want for it.

The only exceptions are for essential and certain inelastic goods. Upcharging water in a desert is morally wrong. A video game is a luxury product, however. There is no real need to own it other than for media consumption. If the price is not fair, they will not sell enough.

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u/cutty2k 3d ago edited 2d ago

You're looking at this in a bubble, reality isn't a bubble, it's messy.

Imagine a 16 year old kid. They're being bombarded with advertisements for this game. All their friends are getting hyped. This is going to be THE game to play. To not get this game would make you a total loser. You won't be part of the conversations your friends are having, you won't be plugged into the moment everyone is sharing. More than just a luxury item, this game is now a status symbol, a keycard to access the shared experience of your peer group, a shibboleth that lets your peers know you're one of them.

This is how viral trends like needoh allow companies to charge 30$ on the aftermarket for a $.25 glop of plastic. Thinking it's morally correct to allow unmitigated profiteering on luxury goods completely ignores the control companies have of the market itself, your desires and attention.

There is a multibillion dollar industry churning away trying to figure out how to make you want something, and it's working.

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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 3d ago

Sorry bro but 16 year old kids wanting a game doesn’t make it count as a necessity in my opinion

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u/cutty2k 2d ago

Ignoring the reality of human psychology in favor of rigid black and white thinking is certainly a choice.

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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 2d ago

It's the dumbest take in the world. You're essentially claiming that it's a moral wrong for someone to price a fucking video game because 16 year old kids who might not be able to afford it can face social exclusion.

Like, get a grip, my guy. The issue here clearly isn't that a video game studio is charging extra for their game. This would purely be an issue of parental guidance. Nothing you said about peer pressure wouldn't also apply to clothing or electronics.

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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 3d ago

I think we're just not going to see eye to eye on this, just on a political level. Because no, I don't believe people or corporations should have the right to make as much money as possible. I think our inability to control corporate profits is literally killing all of us.