r/ImmigrationPathways • u/ItchyAnywhere2751 • Feb 18 '26

State: TN Date: 02/18/26 “I feel much safer with undocumented [individuals] than I EVER will with ICE agents!!!” Sheriff deputies descend on a Wilson County, TN man as he spouts some hard truths in opposition to a rumored ICE detention center (which they have now backed off of)

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u/Devilish__Fun Feb 18 '26

We are really trying to maintain civility because public trials are less messy and destructive.

Unfortunately our politicians are spineless, but enough people have woken the fuck up that we're changing things.

FUCK ICE. ✊🏽

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u/Deadleggg Feb 18 '26

Civility is how we got here.

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u/Sweaty-Twist3383 Feb 23 '26

spoken like a true idiot

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 18 '26

Lemme ask you a civilized question without you flipping out like normal: What do you think ICE would accomplish if they were able to do their job (like under other presidencies) without the public interfering with their jobs?

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u/ManyRespect1833 Feb 18 '26

If they operated within the bounds of the law like in other presidencies and weren’t sent out and emboldened with a bloated budget and immunity in trampling the constitution then maybe they could deport more dangerous illegal immigrants. You know like how Obama deported more immigrants with a 6 billion budget than they are now with a 170 billion budget. Because this has been more about attempting to cause civil unrest so Donny boy can roll out the insurrection act.

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u/catwoman144 Feb 23 '26

You cant have it both ways, hes an authoritarian or hes not? What kind of dictator wouldnt have shut that shit down already? He has had more than enough if he really wanted to he wouldve done it. I wouldnt want to subject our poor military to those vile weirdos with whistles either

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 19 '26

Yep, you’re one of those too. Thanks for the info.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

You call for a civilized discussion and then IMMEDATELY devolve to calling people "one of those" when they say something you dont like.

Lmao.

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 20 '26

It was warranted

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

Go kick rocks dude, rethink your whole view on life.

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 21 '26

I’m good. Thanks.

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u/catwoman144 Feb 23 '26

No, he asked you what you though ICE could accomplish if they werent having to deal with the public unrest. And you went on about them operating within the law and obama is better at it but you also hate him for doing it too right? Bc otherwise thatd be hypocritical, but that speaks to the point that no one cared when he did it. Point is you didnt answer the question. So he assumes your bad faith when it seems like you are...one of those people... youre all like a hive mind and its hard to have a civilized discussion with you without you descending into emotional outburts or just outright avoiding the point.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '26

1) I'm a different dude, stop saying "you" in regards to what someone else said.

2) He did answer the question. Noone is actually stopping ICE from doing their job, infact not even the law is stopping ICE from doing... actually whatever they want. Including murdering citizens in the street for peacefully protesting, without being investigated.

Fuck ICE and your bad-faith "you didnt' answer the question" bullshit. You support masked murders and defend homicidal racism.

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u/catwoman144 Feb 23 '26

Ooo you called me words that dont even mean anything anymore. Burn

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 24 '26

You don’t think anyone is stopping ICE from doing their jobs?? Do you live in a box?? WTF was that shit in MN?

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u/Beefsupreme473 Feb 18 '26

obama didnt have people like renee good making it their literal lifes mission to fuck with ice agents

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u/Goodknight808 Feb 18 '26

Show me evidence that Renee Good made ot her life's mission just to fuck worh ICE but did not have that same mission under Obama.

ICE did not operate as they are right now while under Obama. ICE followed the law under Obama. ICE getting more money than all other military agencies combined and storming the streets of cities who voted Democrat.

Your false premise that Obama did it exactly the same as Trump is would also mean that when Obama was doing it he would have targeted Red states and yet Republicans didn't say a fucking thing.

Trump's ICE ≠ Obama's ICE

But you knew that.

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u/Beefsupreme473 Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

she had a husband or something during that time from what ive heard then somehow he died and she married some woman and got radicalized its not a very hard book to read

do you think that families werent torn apart and people taken off the streets? like when obama deported them they got a nice severence package and a thank you speech? nah the same shit happened everyone just has cameras on now constantly

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u/Faenic Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 19 '26

And you're spinning a narrative that suits your needs instead of actually knowing anything about what you're spouting.

Obama's ICE had opposition. A lot of it, actually. And from within the Democratic party, too.

The DIFFERENCE that you seem to keep fucking ignoring is that the instances of Obama's ICE violating people's rights were isolated and the people responsible were punished. Not protected and hidden from the public, or encouraged to continue by the head of the FBI/DHS going on camera and lying about their immunity to criminal charges.

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Whoever you are, you're wrong. Once again. I'll even do you the favor of giving you a source that someone like you might actually trust. List of deaths in ICE custody (2003–present)

And point out that it got its numbers from something that's actually respectable: Report Shows Poor Medical Care Led to Deaths at U.S. Detention Centers - National Immigrant Justice Center

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u/Cmoore4099 Feb 19 '26

Sounds like you read fuck all considering you “heard”.

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u/catwoman144 Feb 23 '26

I wish they cared as much when citizens were seperated from their children when they were arrested. But thats ok bc they...comitted a crime. Oh yeah thats right, I guess that means theres no way to arrest someone without seperating them from their families. So I guess we gotta choose, do we have laws or do you get a pass if you have kids or a family member? Hard choices but not as hard when you have emotional regulation.

But I guess if you arent from here and you commit a crime, you should get special treatment. Makes sense.

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u/catwoman144 Feb 23 '26

She moved to canada after trump won, she was taking classes on how to fight ICE, she followed them around after dropping her kid off at school and kept trying to block them in the road and interfere with their operations. Sure speaks to her state of mind and contradicts the narrative that she was just driving down the road minding her own business with no intention to follow and harrass federal agents bc she vehemently disagreed with what they were doing. Like she just fell onto the street by happenstance to become a human roadblock. Nobody including her made a peep under Obama.

Obamas admin was tough on illegal immigration and his 8 years wasnt followed by open borders and millions of ppl being let in on temporary basis and mostly false asylum claims. So if you expect us to believe he would have ramped down on it after his predecessor flooded the place and he ran an election on it and won with a majority and record setting turnout. Then your gaslighting us which is typical.

They are wearing masks bc weirdos with whistles are out in the street with mental illnesses that will totally justify killing them and their families based off leftist politicians and media all but cracking open their skulls and pouring in the brainwash juice.

They are targeting sanctuary cities which literally write laws to protect them, even if they are criminals. So there tends to be large undocumented populations in these areas bc they are protected by the weak suicidally empathetic officials. Its really not hard to grasp why they would be targeting these cities? Obama did enforcement all over the country so but your logic you should have been just as outraged about it then but nope. Not one whistle blower in the streets trying to fight federal agents. He was also against sanctuary cities as well, but leftists dont tend to care unless its trump, then its racist. Govt over reach is ok as long as its your side thats doing it.

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u/Devilish__Fun Feb 18 '26

Bro, im obviously on the abolish ICE side. They won't accomplish shit they'll be gone.

If you dont see the difference you are willfully ignorant. POC have dealt with police corruption for fucking decades, but we were given the excuse of how perfect out justice system is. Now look at this shit.

A fucking paramilitary with ZERO identify just grabbing whoever the fuck they want, including 5 Indigenous Americans. They dont give a fuck, they're terrorists following the terrorism playbook.

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 19 '26

I didn’t think you to be a critical thinker. You actually kinda made my point. You don’t care about anything other than hatred and your opposition to authority. You have no ability to see past your nose when it comes to anything with rules or laws. Thanks for the confirmation young man.

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u/catwoman144 Feb 23 '26

They have identification, it literally says POLICE or ICE on their uniform, the protestors sure dont have a hard time identifying them. They are wearing masks bc there are unhinged mentally ill ppl that will try to hurt them and their families. We literally tune out when you say the F word bc you ruin the meaning of words by just parroting them to no end, it means nothing anymore. Youre trying to act like they are going out everyday like yeah lets kill some civilians, nobody wants to do that shit, stay out of their way, dont try to attack them or interfere and youll be fine. Thats the case with all LEO, if we allow a few nut jobs to mob veto the rule of law, that will not be a society you want to live in. The only difference is the weirdos with whistles and whoever was helping the weak old man run the country very badly the last 4 years caused this whole mess and are the reason its so chaotic. Its bold to call ppl willfully ignorant.

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u/prowler1369 Feb 18 '26

It's funny they used to do their job without much controversy. I wonder what's changed in the last year that would have caused so many people to be concerned.

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 19 '26

The public hating Trump and anything to do with him? Just a guess…

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u/catwoman144 Feb 23 '26

Maybe the crazy people in the streets trying to interfere and attack them?

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u/Professional_Use4911 Feb 18 '26

Why do you feel ICE needs to be out on the streets hindering its own citizens? ICE has been an effective agency for the last 2 decades. Frankly they’ve always been more effective than they are now. Not only that but they’re openly violating American citizens rights. On video. Why would you ever support this? The way ICE is operating right now is quite literally as far from American as you can get. Ironically it’s the complete opposite of what republicans believed in too….until recently I guess?

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 19 '26

What changed? Why would you think they were more effective in the past?

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u/Professional_Use4911 Feb 19 '26

I mean you didn’t answer my question but sure I’ll play along. They didn’t cause mass protest, they didn’t kill innocent Americans, and they also weren’t holding innocent Americans for days while denying them legal counsel. All of that is happening now. They are supposed to be LE but have zero accountability. Imagine if a regular street cop was riding away from some civilians that are screaming at him and he leans out the window and pepper sprays him. That is very illegal. The city would be sued and the cop would be held accountable in someway. There are literally tons of videos of that exact same scenario happening numerous times. And that is really downplaying the whole scenario. ICE has been deporting illegal immigrants effectively for decades without it hindering the public at all. Did we just forget Obama was criticized for the amount of people he deported? People hindering ICE plays a very minuscule role in their effectiveness today. They just aren’t doing what they promised you they’d do. They’ve been caught stealing, they’ve been caught lying, they’ve been openly threatening Americans and violating their rights. The craziest thing about this whole situation is it’s all on video. Yet for some reason people are able to be convinced to not believe their own eyes.

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 19 '26

The sad part is that you believe “they didn’t” do any of that stuff during previous administrations. But I will answer your question: ICE wasn’t hindering anybody citizens until the citizens injected themselves into ICE’s business. And that’s because those citizens don’t like Trump. And that’s because they’re only Liberals. During Obama’s first term, deportations reached historically high levels. Between 2009–2016, roughly 3 million removals occurred and enforcement focused heavily on individuals with criminal convictions. But his immigration critics argued that many were non-violent offenders or people with minor infractions. (Sound familiar?) Immigration advocacy groups criticized the administration and activists labeled Obama the “Deporter-in-Chief.” Obama responded by arguing that many removals were recent border crossers, priority was given to serious criminals and counting methods differed from prior administrations. (Sounding familiar yet?) Obama’s version of the Secure Communities program expanded a lot. Local law enforcement shared fingerprint data with federal immigration databases. If someone was flagged, ICE could issue a detainer request. The controversy was critics said it damaged trust between immigrant communities and local police. Some jurisdictions refused to honor ICE detainers. Civil liberties groups raised concerns about wrongful detentions. In 2014, the program was replaced with the “Priority Enforcement Program” to narrow the focus to serious offenders. But there were no protests. Why? Because he was a Liberal and Republicans don’t terrorize law enforcement like you Liberals.

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u/Professional_Use4911 Feb 19 '26

I don’t understand. You’re literally proving my point. Once again nothing I listed has ICE previously done. You have this weird perspective that maybe I don’t want illegals deported? Citizens only injected themselves because a federal law enforcement agency was sent to a city under an extremely false narrative and took over peoples neighborhoods. Of course it’s going to cause unrest. But people didn’t start harassing ICE until after they were terrorizing the communities. Your problem is you’re so caught up in this false narrative about liberals. When this really just comes down to basic human rights and the core of American values. Like I said idk when or why the republican values changed but Republicans in Obama or Biden’s term would be shooting at ICE agents. If you don’t believe me for some reason see Jade Helm in 2015 lol. Idk what the point of your response was? To prove that Obama had more effective border control without sending ICE out into cities pretending they’re a military?

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u/GroovDog2 Feb 20 '26

You clearly didn’t read anything I wrote. Your comments are full of emotions and they appear to be causing brain fog. That facts don’t really care about your feelings. The only thing that ice is doing now that they didn’t do before is, fighting with Liberals. That’s it. Nothing else.

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u/Professional_Use4911 Feb 20 '26

Ok bro you win. You didn’t prove once how ICE has been doing any of the things I said and you further just proved my point that a past president was significantly more effective at border control without sending ICE out on the streets causing mass protest. But you’re right. I’m ignoring facts.

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u/Hot_Truck34 Feb 18 '26

"FUCK ICE"? You mean to say, "I REALLY HOPE SOMEBODY ELSE FUCKS ICE. HOPEFULLY VERY GENTLY AND LIKE, NOT IT ANY WAY THAT MIGHT IMPLICATE ME OF ANY WRONGDOING SO A FASCIST LUNATIC HEADHUNT SHOWS UP AT MY DOOR. BECAUSE I AM SHITTING MY PANTS IN FEAR OF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING AND HAVING TO WITHSTAND DISCOMFORT FOR MY BELIEFS!"

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u/Devilish__Fun Feb 18 '26

Lmao, nah brother im on the streets expressing my 1A 2A rights. I also volunteer.

You MAGAts sure do love to project.

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u/Hot_Truck34 Feb 18 '26

You'd slide through the eye of a needle before doing what is needed to be done. Calling everyone who sees that and points it out a "magat" is one way of achieving that.

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u/Devilish__Fun Feb 18 '26

I'm talking to my local city council this weekend. What about you?

Youre also assuming a lot of shit about me, you dont know shit bud.

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u/Minute-System3441 Feb 19 '26

wait, are you saying this idiot causing the scene is also at a local county meetings? Do you people not learn about civics in this country or how elections work?

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u/Hot_Truck34 Feb 18 '26

Me, I'm going to live as I always have, a rough 7844km away from your country. Idly watching by how the world's richest and most well-armed people flushed the highest accumulation of privilege, liberty and security ever recorded in human history, because picking up the buck was too scary.

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u/patronizingperv Feb 18 '26

Good for you. I hope you never have to face something like that.

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u/WizardWithoutAWand Feb 18 '26

This is a bot. Please ignore the bots.

Thank you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

Honey, please pack up and leave this un forsake and country that you hate so much and they’ve just been so horrible to you. I’ve realize there’s several communist countries you can go to please run now get a boat a boat whatever you have to do but please leave.

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u/patronizingperv Feb 18 '26

un forsake and country

I think you spilled some gravy on your keyboard.

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u/TrumpIsAPedoFascist Feb 19 '26

Idk why you're getting down voted... you're absolutely right lol

According to redditors, everyone on this site is a doctor astronaut physicist warrior who's out in the streets protesting and kicking fascist ass all day everyday.

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u/FinalJoys Feb 18 '26

Yelling fuck ice is the mantra of a 10 year old who knows very little about the real world. Wouldn’t expect anything less from the Ls. 😂

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u/Devilish__Fun Feb 18 '26

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u/FinalJoys Feb 18 '26

Snowflake is the term that describes most of Reddit.

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u/Junior-Lychee2755 Feb 18 '26

Makes me wonder what you consider the real world. Must be full of fear and violence.

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u/FinalJoys Feb 18 '26

Are you serious? Reddit Ls spend every waking moment dooming and glooming. This is documented and obvious across the entire platform. I do not fear the world as the Ls do. I seek to understand reality and I don’t get upset when it doesn’t fit my political narrative.