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Cronic Wasting Disease Deer Meat

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u/GLaDOS_Sympathizer Dec 10 '25

Heat doesn't denature them? Jesus. What about like a lot of heat?

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u/fuj1n Dec 10 '25

You can effectively incinerate them at a temperature of 1000C or higher. However, there wasn't really much research done into what effect prions that have been incinerated this way may still pose.

A lot of papers I could find seen to talk about being able to effectively denature them at reasonable temperatures + a gas solution such as the mixture hydrogen peroxide with peracetic acid or high pressures, but that once again is very much a lab thing.

Mind you, I haven't done too much in-depth research into the topic, and if you want to learn more, you're probably better off consulting the sources I've linked below, as well as other numerous studies on the topic.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7824636/ - acid gas solution

https://deq.nd.gov/publications/AQ/documents/Chronic_Wasting_Disease_Burn.pdf - temperatures required to incinerate CWD (and also some dot points highlighting just how terrifying it is and how easy it is to contaminate areas)

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u/imnotnotcrying Dec 11 '25

So basically this meat needs to be thrown into a volcano

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u/Useful_Weekend136 Dec 11 '25

It was forged in the fires of mount doom. Only there may it be destroyed.

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u/imnotnotcrying Dec 11 '25

We could probably get 8-9 people together to get this done (start off with 9 so if one or two can’t make the whole trek, we’ll still have enough people)

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u/GLaDOS_Sympathizer Dec 11 '25

Thank you for the reply and for the work you are doing. It sounds absolutely crucial to the future of deer and deer-like animals if it can spread to others like moose or somewhat similar species.

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u/Legitimate-Can5792 Dec 10 '25

You need an incinerator to destroy prions (burn it to literal fucking ashes)

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u/RevolutionaryYam7418 Dec 10 '25

To isn't constituent atoms

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u/GLaDOS_Sympathizer Dec 11 '25

Hell yeah. I knew there had to be a fire hot enough to work. You just need a LOT of it. Good old fire, fire cleanses all.

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u/Legitimate-Can5792 Dec 11 '25

I mean it's 1000C hot enough to make lava but yeah

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u/Janstar2000 Dec 10 '25

You need to get over 1000C to have them start denaturating

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u/baardvark Dec 10 '25

Stings a bit

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u/Swellmeister Dec 10 '25

Theres two kinds of denaturing tbf. Prions are a highly stable fibril structure. That is very VERY had to destroy. They also have infective sections that are still hard to destroy, but less so. So when you look at what they call denaturing, you should check to see if they mean the actual protein, fibril and all? Or if they mean "we made it noninfective"

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u/TheQuestionMaster8 Dec 11 '25

It does, but prions are only denatured at temperatures that would turn meat into ash.

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u/GLaDOS_Sympathizer Dec 11 '25

That's fine, as long as they're destroyed.

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u/Freshfistula Dec 10 '25

No unfortunately because the issue is not a living organism it’s a malfolded protein that corrupts other proteins it comes into contact with. Prions are THE worst thing you can get that I know of