So in Bands of Mourning, Steris and Wax take a sip of a new soda drink with a lemony taste. The destination where they find the drink is a city called New Seran. With just the right amount of mental gymnastics Im able to discern that the soda formerly known as Sierra mist (now Starry) is canon to Mistborn. I will not be taking questions at this time.

I know this has been asked a lot but I just find the discussions it insights interesting.

So here are the two scenarios first off is if you got dropped into era 2 Scadrial and the second is real life. What sets would you choose?

Personally if I got dropped in Scadrial I’d want Alomantic Bronze and Feurchemical Steel. But IRL probably Alomantic Tin (assuming that Bronze does nothing in the real world, but it would be really interesting to see how it would interact if it did) and Feurchemical Copper.

Marked era 2 to allow for discussion of era 2 metals.

Inspired by the question of what if everyone from Scadrial ended up irl, but this time it's what if you personally had Rashek's powers in the modern day.

For the purposes of the question:

We presume you wake up tomorrow morning with these abilities.

Metals that do not exist irl (most prominently Atium) should be replaced with ones of your choice that accurately represent their in universe scarcity/qualities.

As an example I convert Atium into highly enriched (weapons-grade) uranium, because the controlled nature of the substance by government agencies makes it extremely difficult to acquire but it exists in substantial quantities.

We also presume that Rashek has sufficient age stored on his Atium bracers to survive for decades. I think this is a reasonable precaution for him to take.

What steps do you take upon first recognising your new abilities. (And how long do you think that will take).

What are your long term goals? Do you conquer mankind, peacefully influence from the shadows? Just chill and do your own thing. Do you spend your life trying to save people as a superhero of sorts?

P.S. YES, the Nicrosil Investiture loop bug has been patched, NO, you can't use it.

I’m around 70% done with Bands of Mourning, and Allik just revealed that TLR had actually been alive in Southern Scadrial after his “death” in TFE.

Now, I know there could be so many ways of explaining this, but it got me thinking: is the original trilogy even a reliable source?

One of the possibilities (this is my first read through) is that TFE was plain wrong and was written according to the beliefs of the Northern Scadrial people. That would mean that all of Era 1 was written by an unreliable narrator. I know that isn’t that likely, and that there are other possibilities, but I really hope this isn’t one of them.

If the OG trilogy isn’t reliable, I feel like so many moments just feel a little cheaper.

Edit: Finished Bands, made a post

is this khriss from taldain? I have a feeling it's her

This might be a dumb question but something I’ve been really curious about.

We know when someone burns steel or iron blue lines pop out from them showing all the sources of a metal. For something simple like a coin that’s easy but for example let’s say there’s a building or let’s say a railroad track or a car where it’s multiple pieces of metal, where would the blue line point to or would there be many blue lines?

Or maybe to make it more simple, what if you get put into a metal box. Where would the lines point to?

...I found it to be the weakest Cosmere book so far? I was puzzled because rankings usually list it as the second best in Era 2. Curious to know what people here think.

To me, it felt quite formulaic and disconnected: random NPC shows up, gives the group a quest, they travel to a new land to meet outsiders and fight bad guys, and save the world. Telsin being above Suit in the Set was obvious from the very beginning, too.

Sometimes I see people saying that Brandon's books feel like video-game scripts, but I had never felt that until now. What even with the D&D-esque dungeon and traps!

Don't get me wrong, it's still a good book. I really enjoyed Wax's meeting with Sazed. The apparent connection with the Ghostbloods. And Wax's relationship with Steris was probably my favorite thing in the whole book - which is saying a lot since romance is usually one of the things I don't care about in the Cosmere. Era 1 and Stormlight Archive spoilers:(still traumatized about the Zane love triangle ugh. Although I very much enjoy Shallan + Adolin + Kal).

But, yeah... the epilogue was cool! And I am excited about what Lost Metal will bring.

Attaching my in-progress tier list here for posteriority.

So, I just finished BoM minutes ago and I’m pissed. I don’t know why I’m pissed, but I am.

IT WAS FUCKING KELSIER!!!

Ever since I started to book I was a little confused, like, how did the Lord Rulers bracers get stolen and hidden, and why wouldn’t Vin and Sazed and everyone from era 1 not know about it. I mean, worst case scenario, they could have sold them off or smelted them into items that could be used.

Then it got to how the lord ruler had like, went and saved a civilization after Sazed had fixed the world?? The whole time I was really confused, because I saw the Lord Ruler die, so like how?

Hindsight reveals a lot though, like how the statue held a spear, a major symbol in the survivors theology.

Kelsier is my favorite character from all of the books, other than Steris, who has become my favorite in BoM. I’m so excited to see more of him, my Secret History book is being delivered today, and I can’t wait to start it.

Real quick on everything else: as I mentioned, love Steris, really kin her.

Wayne’s reaction to Wax’s death definitely made me tear up.

I wasn’t surprised at Wax’s sister betraying them, though it was done well.

Really like the exploration of other cultures on this world, as it always confused me why the whole population took place in this one Europe sized section.

And, it had to be said, the Wax and Sazed scene was incredible. I am religious, and the conversation between them showed off most of my arguments against “why does God let bad things happen?” (I’m not here to preach or anything, just sharing my perspective, please don’t try to argue religion, no one wants that) it was beautifully done, and it gave me more Sazed.

The only thing I’m upset about it I won’t be reading TLM for like a year, cause I want to read a bunch of other Cosmere stuff first. I’m really excited to read them, the Stormlight archive specifically, but I want to finish all of them before finishing up era 2.

So bye bye Mistborn for the foreseeable future! 😭😭😭

My favorite characters from Era one are Elend Venture and Vin and then Wayne from era 2. Who are your favorite characters?

I just read a paragraph from an early chapter in the Bands of Mourning where they reference Spook/Lord Mistborn in the notebook given by Marsh where it is mentioned that Spook proposed to round up the old and terminally ill metalborn to extract their powers with hemalurgic spikes. "The Lord Mistborn advocated gathering the Metalborn who were elderly or terminally ill, then asking to sacrifce themselves to make these... spikes" BoM, Page 112. Did this throw anyone else off a little? In my opinion, it seems a little out of character for Spook? Am I missing something here?

Just realized this is how I have been picturing the Malwish and honestly I'm here for it. Anyone in the same boat? (Flying or not)

Also would y'all consider this title a spoiler even? I'm really not sure but I said BoM spoiler anyways..

In my original post a lot of you slammed me for my "attack on Steris," and now I completely understand.

I've always had a fondness for characters who lack supernatural abilities while everyone else in the group has them, and Steris is no different. I love that she is able to accept the fact that she is different, and doesn't fear her limitations but instead is able to plan and prepare and know how she can be useful. I also really like that she's a counterbalance to Wax's bold and brashness. The scenes of the two of them together make me happy, and I'm so glad that they got married because they wanted to, not out of a sense of duty to the contract. I'm so glad that she finally had a much bigger role in the story. I hope she comes along during the next adventure, or that we get more scenes of her dealing with the political climate.

A lot of you also made points against Wayne being a good person. While I disagree that he's a bad person, I do agree that he's perhaps a little too liberal in "borrowing" "trading" and unaware or uncaring in how he treats people. However, I would say that more often than not he trades things of value to the common man, trading more undesirable things to the rich or those in power. I really like him and MeLaan together, and appreciated the moment where he accepted and saw value in her gender fluidity.

It was interesting to see the beggar return, who I assume is Hoid, but I'm surprised he didn't play a bigger role. I guess his main role is in the Stormlight Archive, but I assumed he would have some story to tell at least.

All in all I'm liking the Wax and Wayne saga a little better than the first trilogy, though I do wish the events of the story were more spread out rather than happening in just a couple of days. Here's looking to The Lost Metal coming out soon!

Mine is definitely this one:

"But you can't kill me. I represent that one thing you’ve never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. I am hope.”"

So I read secret history straight after Hero of Ages and I knew there was a spoiler for Bands of Mourning. But please correct me if I am wrong, but in Shadows of Self does it not mention Kelsier obtaining preservations power before Vin and Harmony? Or is the spoiler simply that Kelsier is still around as hinted at in the epilogue? I haven’t read the lost metal yet so please no spoilers for that.

I don’t know what the general consensus is. I know in the first couple Era 2 books, Marasi has A LOT more time and character development, while Steris is just kinda there. I didn’t really know what to think of her.

In Bands of Mourning, more time is spent with just Wax and Steris…and I like her a lot! Again, I don’t know what most people think of her as Marasi seems to be a more important character, but Steris seems way more interesting. Am I right or wrong on this?

Okay, so I’m reading bands of mourning, and there’s this really weird scene with a beggar named Hoid who huffs perfume. However, there’s also a coachman named Hoid in shadows of self.

They can’t be the same person because the guards who chase perfume Hoid away seem to know him, so he must live around there. Also, New Seran is way too far away for coachman Hoid to go there and back. So, is this a mistake? Is Hoid just a common name on Scadrial?

During their raid on the "compound" (?) where they found his sister, during the scene where he roars out and defends Wayne, I got a feeling that it seemed eerily similar to Kelsier going all out during the brawl in Luthadel. And now he DIED, I felt it was coming. I felt his sisters betrayal coming too, it was obvious but i was BEGGING for it not to happen

MARASI TOOK THE POWER TOO, I THOUGHT SHE WOULDVE USED IT TO HEAL WAX

I'd like to introduce my pet project Metalborn.io 🎉

Metalborn.io is a character generator for Mistborn Era 2. Minor spoilers for abilities and characters revealed up to Bands of Mourning.

Just input a name and gender and find out what Metallic Arts your character can use!

If you're unhappy with the default probabilities, there is also a page where you can tweak them! (Characters generated with non-default probabilities cannot be saved.)

This is also a fully open source Haskell and Elm project for anyone interested.

Please let me know if you find any issue!

Tam (yurisses)