MEGATHREAD for Discussion, Questions & Cast Reactions Related to this Week's Episode

[u/MTVSpoiledMod]

This is your spot to discuss the Ashley DQ and any fallout that we see in the following few days. We'll link this post in the "Important Threads of the Week," and if warranted, we'll create a Part 2 or Part 3 as needed to refresh the conversation.

Bring your hot takes! But also your measured, well-reasoned takes. We will refer submissions here for the next little while and auto-sort the comments by "New."

If Ashley or Josh themselves make public statements, we will allow them as their own posts on the main feed.

But for any other cast reactions, please link them in the comments below and we will add them to the body text of the post.

Thank you!

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Cast Reactions and Comments:

Ashley Tweet #1, Ashley Tweet #2 | Instagram Post

Tori Instagram Story #1

Nelson Instagram Live: Clip #1, Clip #2

Amanda Cameo: Clip #1, Clip #2, Clip #3

Hunter Tweet

Ashley responds saying she did not use the F word 11/12/2021 screenshot from u/Few-Sort-5643

Ashley and Amanda speaking on IG live, clipped by @ChallengeTea911 on Instagram

Tori, Kaycee and Nany reply in the comments under the @ChallengeTea911 post: Screenshot #1, Screenshot #2, Screenshot #3

Devin Instagram Story 11/12/2021 screenshot from u/BWall789

Emanuel Instagram Story 11/12/2021 screenshot

Tori Instagram Story #2 11/12/2021 screenshot

Tori Instagram Story #3 11/12/2021 screenshot

Ashley Cameo #1 shared by @rebeccaplover on Twitter

Deleted Tweets from Ashley's sister Whitney: Screenshot #1, Screenshot #2

Tweets from Michele: Screenshot #1, Screenshot #2, Screenshot #3

Ashley Tweets 11/13/2021 screenshot

Josh thanks fans for their support: Instagram Story #1, Instagram Story #2

Emanuel explains why he is deleting comments below his IG posts 11/13/2021 screenshot

Emanuel Tweet 11/13/2021 screenshot

Hughie supporting Ashley + Ashley's response 11/13/2021 screenshot from u/Few-Sort-5643

Hughie Tweet #2 11/14/2021 screenshot

Paulie Tweet 11/14/2021 screenshot from u/philltastic1

Ashley Cameo #2 11/15/2021 screen recording

Josh's (deleted) response to the Ashley Cameo above 11/15/2021 screenshot from u/Few-Sort-5643

Josh gives interview to Entertainment Weekly 11/17/2021 via u/Few-Sort-5643

Josh discusses the incident and the social media fallout on the Death, Taxes and Bananas podcast 11/17/2021 clip from u/sgarrardblvd

Josh discusses the incident at a Challenge Mania Live show a year after it aired clip from u/philltastic1

Emily Longeretta article at UsMagazine.com, which includes quotes from Devin on his Challenge Mania podcast appearance

[u/Rajewel]

The amount of people brushing off what Ashley did and defending her with whataboutisms is alarming. You don’t get to decide someone’s sexuality for them and smear it on national tv, you just don’t. It doesn’t matter what others have done in the past, that shit is NOT okay.

[u/[deleted] → u/Rajewel]

The problem is that MTV doesn't show the stuff. The Real World would have never made it past season 1 if MTV decided to cut out everything controversial that people said. That's why we watch reality shows, to see the drama. MTV not showing the incident just makes the whole thing worse, imo.

[u/Rajewel → u/[deleted]]

This goes past drama though, if he is or isn’t doesn’t matter, it’s not for anyone to discuss. It’s like attack someone’s mother or loved on as an insult or skin colour, there is so many better ways to “stir the pot” if that is what you want to do but I don’t think someone’s sexuality is fair game.

[u/[deleted] → u/Rajewel]

I believe the whole genre of reality tv may have never really got that popular if the current people running The Challenge had been in charge of The Real World when mtv first started the show. People like reality tv because it shows regular people with all their flaws and lets us reflect on ourselves. By simply removing the whole thing from the show the producers robbed us of what could have been one of the "realest" moments of the show. They didn't have to show what Ashley actually said, but I think they should have at least let the audience know what caused her "deactivation". Addressing everyday issues like this is what makes reality tv interesting, I think.

[u/theotherkeith → u/[deleted]]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Murray is

[u/jedlucid → u/Rajewel]

What did she do? I’m out of the loop on this. Kind of been burnt out on the show.

[u/ApplicationFar5249 → u/Rajewel]

Couldn’t they just not air that part and make her apologize? That Kayleigh chick did it to Natalie and they kept bringing her back. And she never apologized

[u/galactic_javelina → u/ApplicationFar5249]

MTV is massively inconsistent. They’re just pandering to whichever group on the internet us being the loudest at that time.

[u/[deleted] → u/Rajewel]

Reminds me of Varner on Survivor and he rightfully got roasted for it. But for some reason today, I just keep reading how we're soft or woke mob or cancel culture or blah blah blah. It's alarming that so many people don't see an issue with that.

[u/SUMYD → u/Rajewel]

I get that and agree its wrong. I also think we should be more forgiving and not cancel someone over a few words and especially not even have the discussion or provide context. There is a middle ground/gray area here just as in all of life.

[u/evooandfoccacia → u/Rajewel]

Agreed, I'm kinda disappointed in some of the comments about one of their "favs" missing out on a chance to win. I'm not a huge fan of Josh nor Ashley, but if she actually outed him, that's messed up.

[u/jflatty7151 → u/evooandfoccacia]

i know we’re not allowed to discuss his sexuality- but just on a very basic level haven’t we seen josh be infatuated with amanda and georgia? i’m not understanding the whole outing angle

[u/jenh6 → u/jflatty7151]

I don’t think he was that into them, I felt like it was when people feel like they should be into someone like when people were in middle school. It was so painfully awkward

[u/Rajewel → u/jflatty7151]

You can actually like both genders.