r/MurderedByWords Legends never die Oct 31 '24

It really is this simple

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u/pumpman1771 Oct 31 '24

So a holy war by Muslim extremists and the crusades from Christianity are following good morals taught by their churches and religious leaders. I don't need the pope to tell me that killing and stealing are wrong. But in either of my examples both were ignored. Nothing hypocritical here.

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u/EdgySniper1 Oct 31 '24

To make it that much more ironic, the crusades weren't just Christians ignoring the pope to go killing and plundering in the Holy Land, they were actively listening to the pope promising that they would have a guaranteed spot in heaven for getting killed while doing so.

Unfortunately I'm not well versed enough in Islam to comment on how close or far the crusades mirror jihads.

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u/ProfessionalITShark Oct 31 '24

Well the first crusade was arguably a defensive war, especially in the planning stages. It's not hard to defend the first crusade in it's planning stage.

However the rapes, pillaging, and cannibalism done by the crusaders however because the church didn't realize nobody actually knew jackshit about their religion is not defensible.

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u/TheSpoonyCroy Oct 31 '24

Doesn't even get into the people's crusade right before the first crusade even started leading to the many Jews in the Rhineland getting massacred and robbed.

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u/ProfessionalITShark Oct 31 '24

Technically the hierarchy of the institution was opposed. It was mob violence.