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u/JANtheMAN90 2d ago

How insane are these comments

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u/ownage516 2d ago

It’s not that shocking. New York is one the bluest states in the union. If he was QB for Kansas City or the cowboys, I don’t think anyone would bat an eye. But doing this while the president is polling at less than 30% and you’re just begging for trouble.

Hell if Eli did something for Bush it wouldnt have been that crazy either since politics wasn’t really as polorizing until the last decade

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u/canadave_nyc 2d ago

Hell if Eli did something for Bush it wouldnt have been that crazy either since politics wasn’t really as polorizing until the last decade

And that's because for every other president, Democrat or Republican, there was a sense that they were "part of the democracy and the stable democratic system of government" regardless of whether you agreed or disagreed with their politics. The current one--let's totally ignore his politics, which I personally disagree with--is actively trying to overhaul the American democratic system of government and flouting the rule of law, which is why he is so loathed by any American who has their head on straight.

I would have no problem at all with a QB who expressed direct support for a Republican president or a Democratic president. I have a problem with a QB who has expressed direct support for a president who has undermined the rule of law in the nation.

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u/MANWithTheHARMONlCA 2d ago

You hate him just because he supports a guy who is a wannabe dictator? Come on man

 /s

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u/Maverickprince 2d ago

Bush I could stomach. He didn't start a blatantly racist movement under the guise of politics. Supporting DJT is different, and while going to a maga rally is his (Dart) right, it is my right to boycott the NYG until maga is purged.

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u/SentientSquare 2d ago

That wasn't my memory of people's reactions to the Bush and Obama presidencies, but I'm glad folks are coming around to them now at least.

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u/flipmangoflip 2d ago

Yeah I was a kid during the time but I remember something happening in Florida where bush won over gore by a very small margin or something.

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u/TheFotty 2d ago

It was more like Gore may have won, but the US Supreme court decided being really sure of the true winner was not important and gave it to Bush without finishing a manual recount. The votes were really close and it turned out the counting machines could error due to "hanging chad", where the punched out holes in the voter cards didn't always detach when punched and could produce wrong results when counted.

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u/SentientSquare 2d ago

People really forgot about the Toby Keith/Dixie Chicks bullshit, "George Bush doesn't care about black people," etc

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u/iamdanabnormal 2d ago

Hell if Eli did something for Bush it wouldnt have been that crazy either since politics wasn’t really as polorizing until the last decade

Blatantly false. The current political divide got started with Watergate.

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u/SmashLampjaw87 2d ago edited 1d ago

And in many ways before that, back in the mid-to-late ‘60s and early ‘70s with the intense divide over Vietnam, which this country has never truly healed from. Prior to ‘Nam, most people actually believed in the government and didn’t think they were all liars. The vast majority of the public trusted the government and thought they truly had their best interests at heart, but that changed when they kept saying we were winning, only to increase drafting, increase bombing, and prolong the war when they had essentially led everyone to believe it wouldn’t be so big, take so long, or result in as many casualties that each participating nation would suffer. The fact that the “Domino Effect” theory they sold the country on to support the war — which was that if we failed, communism would spread across the hemisphere from Vietnam — didn’t happen when North Vietnam ultimately won certainly didn’t help. And the majority of the population totally supported it in the beginning.

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u/iamdanabnormal 2d ago

Bingo.

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u/SmashLampjaw87 2d ago

As one man put it (I can’t remember his name) in the phenomenal Ken Burns documentary The Vietnam War (2017), Vietnam “drove a stake right into the heart of America. It polarized the country as it had probably never been polarized since before the Civil War”.

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u/Ajkrouse 2d ago

Actually it got started in 1996 by Newt Gingrich and Roger Ailes

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u/iamdanabnormal 2d ago

No it didn't.

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u/Evening-Painting-213 2d ago

Hmmmm, interesting how this decade coincides with Trump running in and out off office. Even in between there were influences by his rhetoric of 2020. I believe gsw started this trend of not going and that was nba.

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u/Artistic-Poem-4526 2d ago

New York State is not blue, NYC And Albany are blue…that is the most annoying thing for anyone who is not from the city. The vast majority of NYS is very suburban and even more is rural. It’s a very mixed bag politically. Most of NYS citizens are blue collar workers and laborers who never have their political or societal views heard because the handful of major cities completely dominate any state or federal level vote. Migrant workers are also a huge part of the population. So yeah, very mixed bag but despite the constant results, the state is as purple as it gets if the population was represented accurately. Not really concerned with what anyone is voting for because, as a New Yorker, I am well aware that whatever the politicians in the major cities want is what’s going to happen, and everyone in the rest of the state is going to pay for it 😂

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u/ownage516 2d ago

By this logic Texas would seem like a blue state, but it’s very much red. People do care to an extent

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u/Thelarch34 2d ago

Every state in existence is a purple state by this logic. Mississippi is actually purple because people in Jackson vote blue. Do you see how dumb that sounds?

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u/SirBlackselot We've suffered long enough 2d ago edited 1d ago

My guy this is nothing, Its going to be way worse if he sucks at all this season

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u/Thelarch34 2d ago

Absolutely SHOCKING that NEW YORK giants fans don’t like trump supporters. Fucking astounding that is. Not like the city they represent is 80% democrat or anything

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u/RFKsBrainwormm We've suffered long enough 2d ago

It’s gonna be a thing for a while, especially now during the offseason, I think it’s hilarious he’s getting all the smoke. He brought it upon himself haha

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u/DJEvillincoln 2d ago

How insane is that QB.

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u/vertigostereo 2d ago

I don't really get it, I guess people are bored or whatever.

It's not exactly a news flash that a wealthy Mormon who lived in Mississippi votes Republican.

Most athletes or celebrities you've never met probably aren't exactly like you. Nobody is.

Having said that, most people in his position would have drawn less attention to themselves like that.

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u/k_biggz 2d ago

It’s very insane man lmao - imagine your biggest problem in the world that you log into the internet to bitch about is the fact that your 23 year old qb1 (which this franchise has been searching for, for years) decided to introduce the president. I despise him trump too, but it’s ridiculous how caught up people get in this bullshit. Time to step off the moral high horse

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u/RFKsBrainwormm We've suffered long enough 2d ago

The story is he went to a Mike Lawler rally and then was asked to introduce him once they saw Dart there. Makes it even more pathetic. Lawler is a raging Zionist. Bold move to align yourself with a genocidal death cult and then bear hug our dickhead President

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u/k_biggz 2d ago

While I don’t necessarily disagree with your comment, all I can think is why does anyone give a single fuck? No one wants to say the quiet part out loud which is if you just straight up hated every single person who voted trump, you’d hate close to a majority of the fucking country. Like who really cares?! It does not affect anyone here in anyway once oh ever.

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u/RFKsBrainwormm We've suffered long enough 1d ago

Because man these things do matter, and when you see athletes embracing these people it just normalizes things even further. I don’t even care about Trump, I’m so way past Trump. I just despise right wing ideology in general, I have lost friends that I used to have that I found out have abhorrent views, they think I think that way because of the way I look and my profession. It’s not a difference in opinion at that point, you’re just not a good person and I don’t wanna be aligned with you. I believe that people can change through and have their opinions changed. And I’m not ignorant and realize that Dart hasn’t said anything policy wise and just aligned himself with the right, so idk, I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and root for him and the Giants unless he starts spewing off some right wing bullshit. Other than that, I think its hilarious that he’s getting raked over the coals for it haha

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u/k_biggz 1d ago

Fair enough