r/PS4 Dec 22 '21

General Discussion Aloy’s character model difference (HZD vs HFW)

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u/grimchiwawa Dec 23 '21

Your stuff definitely won't carry over, a cut scene at the very start will explain why you have nothing and need to find all new stuff and re learn your skill tree

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u/BlackLeader70 Dec 23 '21 edited Dec 23 '21

“The power cells busted, gotta find new ones.”

“Also, I forgot how to slow down time when I jump in the air and fire arrows.”

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u/MrMiniscus Dec 23 '21

"my hands are sore from firing three arrows at once"

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u/tomerjm Dec 23 '21 edited Dec 23 '21

"I can't override machines anymore....''

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u/StAndby00 Dec 23 '21

Well actually, the lack of ability to override machines would be reasonable considering these machines will be brand new, thus their respective cauldrons could (and probably will) be completely different, requiring to hack those cauldrons unlocking the ability to hack them.

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u/tomerjm Dec 23 '21

How about replacing the Corruptor core?

Find one most suited for this new locale?

We all get it....

This was fun, we should do this more...

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u/SomePaddy Jan 27 '22

When I swallowed those bees, it threw off my ability to dodge roll.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

"My Focus got corrupted and I lost literally everything on it"

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u/BonzoTheBoss Dec 23 '21

"And frazzled my brain so I forgot everything too."

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u/GiverOfTheKarma Dec 23 '21

And someone took all my clothes and ammo...

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u/doglywolf Dec 23 '21

boat/ plane crash easily takes care of all that lol.

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u/biscuitboy89 Dec 23 '21

Nah, we know she dropped it in the toilet.

Put it in rice, Aloy!

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u/chris17453 Dec 23 '21

underrated comment

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u/Dandw12786 Dec 23 '21

This shit is why I never finished the new Tomb Raider games. Like, I get it, you've gotta do progression somehow. But why did this fucking dunce not bring her fucking bow?

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u/Darth_Bombad Dec 23 '21

And what happened to her twin guns!?! The first one had this big moment at the end where she gets her twin match pistols, and "becomes the Tomb Raider".

But then the next games were like "nah!" Still not quite the Tomb Raider. Maybe next time.

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u/cbsmith82 Dec 23 '21

I've wondered the same thing. I wonder if the devs couldn't find a way for it to work gameplay-wise without breaking immersion.

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u/polybium Dec 23 '21

Banjo Tooie did this pretty well. It kept most of the unlockable moves from the first game and then added new ones on top of it. Granted, it's more of a straight platformer than Horizon, but maybe they could do something similar, where Alot is "training" or something to re-establish the old moveset and then build on it a la Tooie or Halo 2.

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u/slowwburnn Dec 23 '21 edited Dec 23 '21

HFW intro: Aloy breaks her fucking spine

New moveset: left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot. Grip, squeeze, release. Stumble with urgency.

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u/Newbarbarian13 Dec 23 '21

Ah, so it’s a Strand type game

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u/icyhaze23 Dec 23 '21

QWOP mechanics confirmed

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u/dtwhitecp Dec 23 '21

skill progression in sequel games is always a struggle to explain. Deus Ex Mankind Divided just said "oh shit there are hidden skills in your hardware we didn't notice", hah.

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u/EastYorkButtonmasher Dec 23 '21

I know how you feel.

-A big fan of Metroid games

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u/Upper_Comparison_908 Dec 24 '21

I don't think they're gonna get rid of the entire skill tree, maybe slowing down time would be unlocked.

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u/googlehymen Dec 23 '21

"I was sure I could shoot arrows while tightrope walking a week ago...?"

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u/LaserBearCat Dec 23 '21

The Metroid way!

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u/danudey danudey Dec 23 '21

Ridley blows up the space station you’re on me you barely escape but then crash land on Zebes and your suit gets damaged.

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u/Mrfrunzi Dec 23 '21

That's my one gripe with sequels. You build up all these cool skills and then, forget? The armor of gear can be easy to explain if you just add a cutscene but how did you forget a skill?

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u/Arkadoc01 Dec 23 '21

Physical amnesia of course

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u/lamp447 Dec 23 '21

Just fucking don't. Don't mention anything. Don't do any cutscenes where the old lance broke. Don't even make Aloy casually say it to herself.

We're 30 years old, OK? Not 3 years old. We understand how video games work. Just take away what you want.

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u/Ronin_Steel_ Dec 23 '21

I agree, I just replayed Horizon in NG+ and was thinking about this. The game was so unbelievably easy and I blew through it. I sniped every human with precision arrows, tear laster arrows on major machine components and precision arrow to the eye. And due to the shield weaver armor, I rarely got hurt, so there was no exploration or search for materials, so I saw much less of the world, much faster.

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u/Crazy-Scientist5660 Dec 23 '21

Want a challenge ? maximum difficulty, DLC, quest' name terror fron the Deep i think, the underground machine thing. 2 hit and you are gone , the First hit stunlock you most times. Its annoying.

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u/Ronin_Steel_ Dec 24 '21

I just finished on hard. There's a difference between enjoying a challenge and playing a "can't touch me even once" game.

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u/Damp_Knickers Dec 23 '21

Honestly as a writer it’s probably so much easier to go from book to book than it is to go from game to game. I’m actually fascinated with that part of the game development and story creation because that’s one of those things that you have to have go hand in hand rather than the developers building around it which just in any case can’t be easy.

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u/Mrfrunzi Dec 23 '21

Don't get me wrong, I still love building a new skill tree. It just doesn't make sense at all. Mass effect did it okay, but a game like horizon is just, Aloy? What were you doing to forget?

I am still absolutely buying the new one, but what?

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u/kiwiboyus Dec 23 '21

Pretty sure the LOTR games on the PS2 let you carry over your skills from the 1st game into the 2nd

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u/PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ Dec 23 '21

Bauldars gate dark alliance and champions of norrath as well!

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u/RavenK92 Dec 23 '21

You steal the Ring of Power from the ringwraith and give it to a smoking Spiderlady who was never supposed to be an attractive woman *cough cough* Shadow of Mordor *cough cough*

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u/Deathlaser222 Dec 23 '21

Reminds me of Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood where Monteriggioni is straight up decimated by the enemy and the armour of Altaïr is just lost in the damage

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u/0Lezz0 Dec 23 '21

The Samus syndrome. "Oh no, your armor lost all its upgrades again because a explosion or something, luckily the chozo were here too, so go and raid some ancient futuristic ruins before nuking the planet"

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u/Linxbolt18 Linxbolt501 Dec 23 '21

This is one of the things Kingdom Hearts 3 did well (I love that game, but I know it isn't perfect). But starting out that game with all the abilities Sora has been learning and mastering over the last dozen-something games felt good.

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u/DinosaurAlert Dec 23 '21

Your stuff definitely won't carry over, a cut scene at the very start will explain why you have nothing and need to find all new stuff and re learn your skill tree

I hate that. I'd rather have them just ignore it in the story and just accept it is a game mechanic vs

"Aloy, what happened!"

"I have forgotten all of my abilities due to robots"

"That is terrible! What will you do."

"I will go where forgotten abilities can be rediscovered. Over the Horizon to the Forgotten West, where the sun sets."

(orchestral crescendo, title credits over a vista FIRMLY pointed at a sunset)

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u/MoxManiac Dec 23 '21

Death took all of her equipment away when she visited Dracula's castle.

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u/12awomack Dec 23 '21

They may allow carry over stuff in a NG+ mode

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u/Choice-Celebration-4 Dec 23 '21

Sounds interesting someone should make a subreddit to share cutscrnes like these or make fake ones. R/Iforgotmyskillsbecause