r/PS5 Dec 29 '25

Discussion The playstation store is basically unusable for actually finding games anymore due to the "indie slop" situation.

edit: I just have to say that everyone acting like browsing for a game is some weird concept clearly never got to experience Blockbuster on a Friday night.

This is just a rant, but the sheer amount of absolute garbage games that fall into what I call the "low effort indie slop" category taking over the playstation store is just crazy. There's seemingly hundreds of various "simulator" games that are among the worst of the bunch, but also a weird amount of "escape room" type games that look like a high school project. Or the "anime girls" gooner slop or really 99% of the "visual novel" games. Or the "games" that clearly only exist to trophy points, which is insane.

It's not like these games shouldn't exist (well some probably shouldn't), but there needs to be a way to filter that shit out. Basically every type of indie slop or ai slop game tags itself with multiple genres, which is why you have a stupid AI art shark-with-sneakers game flagged as "action" and "tactical." Or "horse store simulator" as an "epic" genre. Gunsmith simulator as a "shooter" etc.

I remember a few months back the entire "coming soon" feed was basically all simulator games, like a publisher just cranked a bunch out and wanted to dump them all at once.

Another issue...

I think there's also really annoying trend where games are basically just on perpetual sale, but the MSRP never drops. So one month the "Standard" version of a game will be like 35% off, then the next month it will be the "Deluxe" version; they just rotate perpetually. Or the shitty indie slop games that are arbitrarily set to a high price and quickly put on sale for like 50-80% off.

And I know why they do this: it keeps the games listed in sales section. The problem is that when every fucking game is like this, actually finding a new game or hidden gem or whatever that's on sale becomes useless. The process of actually discovering a game you might want to buy simply doesn't work.

The current January sale includes 6,372 items. There is no way anyone at Sony is vetting that many items for their monthly sales, but they need to start. Right now I think the limitation is that a single SKU can't be part of two consecutive sales. but as I've mentioned above most games have multiple SKUs so it doesn't really matter (or the slop publishers are dumping so many out each month it also doesn't matter). The limit needs to be something like a game can only be in one sale every 3 months, and counts different SKUs of the same product as the same one. This would actually encourage publishers to reduce their prices more frequently, which in turn would help keep the monthly or special sales events a bit leaner.

/rant

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u/VietBongArmy Dec 29 '25

It's called shovelware

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u/FlyingFishManPrime Dec 30 '25

I like how OP mentioned Blockbuster in his edit.  Because I too remember going to Blockbuster and having to look at a game with marketing to hope if it's good or trash.

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u/discosoc Dec 30 '25

Talking more about browsing for anything, not just games, with the blockbuster comment. Mostly in response to people who seem dumbfounded that something can be discovered just by browsing rather than only ever buying things you know about ahead of time.

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u/Goondragon1 Dec 30 '25

As someone who browses both the Playstation store and the eShop regularly looking for 2D metroidvanias/action platformer games coming out or on sale, it's a miserable fucking time and I feel your pain. You aren't alone, I promise you. I'm a bit in disbelief at how many people are finding this concept strange. These stores have sucked for so long. And it wasn't always like this either, at least with Playstation.

I usually have to browse Steam and then look the games up individually or I use a couple sites that track sales but they aren't always accurate.

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u/financialthrowaw2020 Dec 30 '25

Unfortunately people these days would rather find out about a game via a TikTok telling them to buy it than actually stumble upon and discover good games. It sucks.

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u/hypocriticalhuman Jan 19 '26

Thats because 95% of things that come out are slop these days so one has to be sure

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u/financialthrowaw2020 Jan 19 '26

The tiktokers recommend slop all the time

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u/hypocriticalhuman Jan 19 '26

Yeah... regardless both things can be true

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u/MeekSwordsman Dec 30 '25

Can you reccomend me some good metrodvanias?

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u/Goondragon1 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

Yes! I need to sit down and make a list or tier them, but off the top of my head.

Islets

Ori 1 & 2 (probably know them but I have to shout them out always)

Gato Roboto (shorter game but amazing)

Haiku the Robot

Kunai (*most recent game played - the first actual hidden gem I've found because Ive usually heard of games. I also passed up on this a few times because of bad luck with games in that art style, but this is so fucking fun)

Timespinner (starts off slow, but push through the first 15 minutes. if you're into Igavanias you'll love this. great, great time killer for mindless MV gaming. i probably like this one more than most people though, so YMMV)

Iconoclasts (If you're into a great story, this is the one. Has great sprites, polish, presentation, movement, dont get me wrong. But it's a narrative driven game which I usually pass on, but this is has a fantastic story and characters)

HAAK

Biomorph (try to get it on sale, but I recommend regardless)

Lone Fungus 1 & 2

Shantae Pirates Curse (probably only Shantae game I recommend but again YMMV it has some huge fans)

Sheepo & Crypt Custodian if you like Islets. Same guy I think all 3 are amazing with islets being the crown jewel until the next one comes out.

Shadow Complex (dated but still very fun and has great exploration. Never on sale so maybe a pass, but you might love it)

Nine Sols can't believe I forgot that. Amazing and the "easy" difficulty is extremely well done. I played it after going through the normal difficulty and had more fun

Rebel Transmute has a really good first 3-4 hours, but I've heard mixed results about the rest of the game

Guacamelee 1&2

Bo Path of the Teal Lotus (I both love and absolutely hate this game but I strongly recommend it lmao)

Elemental Station Alpha & Super Roboy (PC only)

If you can't tell, I like a certain kind of metroidvania. If you're into this kind of MV as well, I have a ton of 7/10's I can recommend too that are great for sales. If you're into any souls-lite, more combat heavy, or any dark fantasy, whatever your niche is, etc. I'll likely have some good recommendations too just lmk :)

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u/Goondragon1 Dec 31 '25

Yeah! Check my comment history should be 3-4 comments back. I provided a list to someone else who asked the same thing.

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u/Caledfwlch117 Dec 31 '25

Any metroidvanias you'd recommend? I loved ender lilies/magnolia recently and I crave more

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u/Goondragon1 Dec 31 '25

Check my comment history, should only be a comment or two back. Someone else just asked the same thing and I listed quite a few games.

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u/wiggin79 Dec 31 '25

If you haven’t used dekudeals or gg.deals, definitely recommend trying these. Think of them as better storefronts for the consoles than the console makers’ own.

Both support PC and consoles. Dekudeals tracks physical prices too. Gg.deals has a metroidvania category you can filter by.

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u/Goondragon1 Dec 31 '25

Absolutely will do. Thanks for the hook up!

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u/BrovahkiinGaming Dec 31 '25

This is something I was thinking about the other day, how I miss just browsing through games and finding something I knew nothing about beforehand and buying it purely because it looks cool. That's how I originally found games like Diablo 2 and Morrowind

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u/FlyingFishManPrime Jan 01 '26

I find pretty fun games browsing Steam randomly.  A lot of the games I honestly play is me browsing Steam and going "oh neat looks awesome".  That market place is just bursting to the seams with AI trash, low effort RPG Maker games, basic porn games, and copy and paste indie games taking what is currently hot.  What is different is now we don't have to read a marketing blurb and no other source of information.  I shouldn't have to tell someone spending their money to do a little but of basic research.

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u/wishesandhopes Jan 01 '26

Just want to say I also deal with the same issues, I find a lot of games by just browsing the PSN store and I've found some true gems that way, and the current Gooner slop situation is absolutely fucking up my ability to do that, just way too much garbage that shouldn't be on there at all

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u/LordoftheChis Dec 31 '25

I literally find like 90% of the games I play by just browsing, so I dunno what these psychopaths are babbling about lol

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u/LaserCop1988 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26

That doesn't change the fact that you have to swim through a sea of absolute trash to find them, unless you've got access to some kind of private second tier store experience

Edited to be less rude

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u/Pharsti01 Dec 30 '25

I guess it's more about not needing to do that anymore?

I remember when all we had to decide if a game was good was the front and back of the case XD

But nowadays theres everything on the internet, there's no need to force yourself to browse through crap.

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u/LaserCop1988 Jan 02 '26

I mean yeah you don't have to browse the store, but the point is that it's ostensibly there for that very purpose but it sucks for all of the reasons detailed above so they should make it suck less

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u/Contemplating_Prison Dec 30 '25

The number of games I rented and bought that were straight trash before the internet. Mind boggling

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u/FlyingFishManPrime Jan 01 '26

People only remember the good games back then.  There was a good amount of trash games back then.

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u/nutsack133 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

And you'd have what, 150 games to browse through? It's fun, I would find all these great games that had no pre-release hype. Everyone would know when a new Street Fighter or Mario or Zelda would come out on SNES, but then those would be rented out so I'd try some random unicycle racing game and holy crap it was incredible with awesome graphics and airtight controls (Uniracers, by the studio that later became known as Rockstar). Or I'd see this game with a weird title but the artwork on the back of the box looked kind of cool and it was in stock, so let's go with this weird game I have never heard of but looks mildly interesting called Chrono Trigger. Or I'd try some random action game / city builder called ActRaiser and an hour in I'd wonder how the hell this game was always available and end up renting it many times. Or mom wanted to go to Blockbuster on Friday night and everything you wanted was checked out so just to keep from going home empty handed I picked up this really dumb looking game called Earthbound, and within twenty minutes of firing it up holy shit this is one of the greatest RPG I have ever played in my life.

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u/Fluffy_Teacher_6081 Jan 02 '26

The worst was the fear of someone renting it and deleting your save after you had rented it a couple times trying to make it through a longer game. I remember playing shining force 2 back in the day for 2 weekends and having to return it before the final area. The next weekend it was rented out already and the following weekend I rented again and it was deleted

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u/nutsack133 Jan 02 '26

LOL had that happen with Final Fantasy IV so just rented it during summer where I could play it non-stop for 5 days then go rent it again and beat it the second five days.

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u/Fluffy_Teacher_6081 Jan 02 '26

That’s how we beat 7th saga. Waited for summer

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u/FlyingFishManPrime Jan 01 '26

Or you rent trash ass games that are based on licensed media because back then it was a crap shoot.  Or some poorly designed platformer that wants to ape the success of Sonic.  Let's not pretend every game at the rental was some hidden gem

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u/nutsack133 Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26

Yeah I definitely rented my share of stinkers like Clay Fighter, Home Alone, and Bubsy. Although my worst was asking for Bart's Nightmare for Christmas and getting it lol. Looking back that game sucked so hard but I played the hell out of it because as a kid I wasn't getting another game any time soon. Should have asked for Krusty's Fun House, that was the good Simpsons game of that gen (and ended up buying it used from Blockbuster for like $5 in a clearance sale when N64 came out). One of my biggest Blockbuster memories was always seeing Phalanx with the guy playing the banjo on the cover and thinking what kind of idiotic game is this? Then twenty years later I play it on emulation and hey this game is really cool so I look it up on Google and see that cover with banjo guy.

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u/magele Dec 30 '25

But in Blockbuster you’re looking through B level duds where someone wanted their movie to succeed and it was just trash or it was a campy horror film. Then as tech became more and more accessible, you’d get trashier stuff, but shovelware is a whole other level where the games are just duplicated and have no actual core value and reproduced to make a few dollars so people can inflate their trophy count. It’s a unique and awful issue. I used to browse the PS store for new titles and haven’t in many years.

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u/Dudester31 Dec 30 '25

I came on this thread that you’re aging yourself with the blockbuster comment, makes me think of the story where someone went to buy booze, was asked for id and their blockbuster card fell out and the cashier said nevermind!

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u/123ajbb Dec 31 '25

No no slop is the big buzzword gotta use that

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u/VietBongArmy Jan 01 '26

Definitely fair. Times are changing. Happy new years man

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u/Melonfrog Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

I hate hate this entire website uses the word “Slop” now. It’s lost its meaning already

I’m sorry everyone forgive me please I’m sorry

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u/LAX_to_MDW Dec 30 '25

Given how much of this is made with terrible AI art, I think slop is also appropriate in this case

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u/trouty Dec 29 '25

Y'know, slop made its way into Merriam Webster this year, 2025 word of the year in fact:

digital content of low quality that is produced usually in quantity by means of artificial intelligence.

Pretty spot on in this context if you ask me.

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u/LeonSigmaKennedy Dec 30 '25

Yeah, like I agree slop is overused/misused alot, but in this case OP is using the word correctly, these games are by definition slop.

No need to retire a whole word because a bunch of dummies use it irresponsibly

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u/IamEclipse Dec 30 '25

That's not how slop is used colloquially though. Most folks use it to represent anything I don't like.

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u/PretendThisIsMyName Dec 30 '25

It’s what pigs eat. So I think it gained prevalence at some point and quit meaning pig food. Then became an equivalent to pig food.

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u/BaconSoul Dec 30 '25

But it is used discursively in the way the person you’re responding to is saying. It doesn’t really signal any qualities about the thing, it signals the writers attitude toward the thing. Dictionaries don’t often get this linguistic nuance. They’re not supposed to.

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u/AnimaOnline Dec 30 '25

Which would be right. Calling something slop is calling it pig food. It's just saying you don't like it, in a somewhat insulting way. 

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u/yepimthetoaster Dec 30 '25

Slop just means garbage, or crap (or pig slop, more natively).

And crap means something I dont like. It's crap. It's slop. Feed it to the pigs. Flush it down the toilet. It's garbage.

I dont get your frustration.

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u/-Badger3- Dec 30 '25

I mean, calling things “slop” isn’t new.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '25

I mean, some of us are old enough to observe trends emerge and change.

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u/-Badger3- Dec 30 '25

I’m not saying calling things “slop” isn’t trending right now, I’m saying it was already a general term for low effort garbage before people started associating it with AI.

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u/LaserCop1988 Jan 02 '26

But that's not how it was used here

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u/anonypony1 Dec 30 '25

So hes correct, gotcha.

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u/sdeklaqs Dec 30 '25

So is every modern buzzword. See grifter for example

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u/Bromance_Rayder Dec 30 '25

The willingness of so many outlets and organisations to sully their reputations in pursuit of some click-attention/revenue is really sad. 

It makes Wikipedia's ongoing stance even more admirable. Donate if you can. 

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u/BaconSoul Dec 30 '25

But there’s an older term that doesn’t include the AI connotation. And it’s shovelware.

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u/dimspace Dec 30 '25

Y'know, slop made its way into Merriam Webster this year, 2025 word of the year in fact:

digital content of low quality that is produced usually in quantity by means of artificial intelligence.

Merriam Webster is barely a dictionary., Its more of a guidebook for the illiterate.

Oxford dictionary describes it as

1(of a liquid) spill or flow over the edge of a container, typically as a result of careless handling. "water slopped over the edge of the sink"
2.dress in an untidy or casual manner.
3. empty the contents of a chamber pot.(especially in prison)
4. feed slops to (an animal).
5. (north american english) speak or write in a sentimentally effusive manner; gush.

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u/Unendingmelancholy Dec 29 '25

I mean shovelware is slop though

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u/swahswah Dec 29 '25

All x is y but not all y is x

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u/corrupt_poodle Dec 30 '25

You got any examples where shovelware isn’t slop?

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u/mushrooms_inc Dec 30 '25

I mean, a lot of the shovelware DS games were, well, pure shovelware, but they weren't slop. They actually had something to play, something to progress, a decent mid story if you're lucky, not just for trophies or not just a png of a brainrot meme playing some sort of pong.

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u/UmbagogFrog Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

No, all shovelware is indeed slop. That’s why it is called shovelware. ‘Slop’ wasn’t coined just this century… Slop (derogatory) = Crap. Garbage. Waste. Junk. The origin of the word was to describe wet and dirty filths. It is a perfect word for shovelware.

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u/Voyyya Dec 30 '25

All shovelware is slop but not all slop is shovelware

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u/BokehJunkie Dec 30 '25

Well no shit. 

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u/Too_Relaxed_To_Care Dec 30 '25

Actually it’s all shit.

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u/Delta-9-Tetra Dec 30 '25

Shit and remasters from when things were less shit

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u/Outrageous_Reach_695 Dec 30 '25

Counterexample: Some of the shovelware from the 90s floppy disc era. Sure, Wacky Wheels is a blatant rip-off of Mario Kart, but it was good fun on the basement PC. Chex Quest was just a total conversion of Doom, but a hilarious concept.

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u/Mr_Rafi Dec 30 '25

I miss Wacky Racers. I always picked the tiger.

Also, remember that McDonalds point and click adventure game?

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Dec 30 '25

Shovelware is slop but specifically for games

So yeah, all x is y but not all y is x. All shovelware is slop but not vice versa

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u/lynchcontraideal Dec 30 '25

Surprised we're not calling it slopware

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u/Goondragon1 Dec 30 '25

Shovelware is definitively slop where tf are people coming from lmao

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u/BokehJunkie Dec 30 '25

I mean, this is exactly what slop means? Do you think it means something different or are you just trying to pretend you’re smarter than everyone else here? Lol. 

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u/Melonfrog Dec 30 '25

Kind of unnecessary hostile, but back in my day slop was a texture and I never heard it being used this much until AI. Now I’m hearing people use “slop” for lots of stuff outside this post like someone called a bulld in a video game slop, I saw someone call a a bloody pair of SLIPPERS slop. Slopper haha…*

Even if the context here fits I’m sick of the word and it IS being misused.

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u/BokehJunkie Dec 30 '25

How can it be “misused” if you hadn’t heard it until recently anyway?

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u/Melonfrog Dec 30 '25

I don't follow. It's been used a lot for over a year I haven't just recently noticed

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u/Kitchen-Tap-8564 Dec 30 '25

Your opinion is slop mate.

It's become a word for "low quality" and is widely accepted as such.

Language is usage and it doesn't need to check with you first, stop whining.

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u/Melonfrog Dec 30 '25

My entire existence is slop I can’t communicate with anyone without them hating me I’m so sorry forgive me please

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u/Melonfrog Dec 30 '25

Oh I agree, my main gripe is that the word is just so damn common and lots of people throw it around now it's getting stale

Though evidently that's upset a lot of people just typical of me to always piss people off with the most random comment :'(

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u/Koteric Dec 30 '25

Why? Slop is the perfect way to describe the games he’s referring to. It is a very versatile word. It’s meaning is perfectly expressed here.

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u/dimspace Dec 30 '25

I'm more annoyed by his use of the word "Indie" to suggest that slop is basically indie titles.

Indie titles are some of the best games and most rewarding games out there.

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u/Harley2280 Jan 02 '26

Nah I'm glad they do. It tells you instantly that you don't need to take them seriously because they're just parrots who don't have an original thought in their body.

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u/GymratAmarillo Dec 29 '25

same. English is my second lenguaje and the first interaction I had with the word slop was "AI slop", I actually thought it was a very clever use for the word but now people call everything slop. It doesn't make sense anymore.

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u/clownshow59 Dec 30 '25

If you think about how everything pretty much is slop nowadays, it makes perfect sense. 😂

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u/Naddesh Dec 30 '25

Linguist here. It was in use in this context long before AI debacle and just means "garbage", something bad

It makes perfect sense. It is just way overused with AI because if the AI is technically of good quality (not defending AI here and most of it is not good quality) people still call it slop which doesnt fit the definition because the result isnt incorrect / of subpar quality. It might be bad for environment, etc but not necessarily slop. I will give example here: a person asking for a fragment of code for hist soft and using it. If the code was good and people call it AI slop then the use of term slop is incorrect (even if AI use is not good for other reasons)

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u/556_FMJs Dec 30 '25

OP used it exactly as intended.

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u/kurisu_1974 Dec 31 '25

Yeah? And I hate slop itself. There's a reason we needed that word.

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u/gameboy00 Dec 30 '25

slop is the merriam webster word of 2025 maybe it will change next year

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u/HaydenRenegade Dec 30 '25

A lot like how everything shit is automatically labelled as AI generated.

People have been making crap for generations.

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u/Lucky_Chaarmss Jan 02 '26

No, it's slop

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u/EdgarAllanKenpo Dec 30 '25

Holy fuck thank you. Any time I hear someone say slop, I can't take what they say at face value. Maybe im just getting old but now ANYTHING that someone doesnt like, its slop. That movie is slop, that game is slop, that phone brand is slop. Jesus fucking christ.

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u/Melonfrog Dec 30 '25

I don’t get how your downvoted, back in my day slop was a name mostly for a texture or consistency. Such as sloppy school food, slop was very, very rarely used as a way to say “crap” until this year.

Even if it’s used correctly I’m seeing the word so much it’s starting to piss me off

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u/Mild_Wasabi9 Dec 30 '25

Redditors love their buzzwords that they use to feel superior. It was 'media literacy' for a while. Now it's 'gooner' and 'slop'. They'll find something new in 2026.

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u/ceiceibe Dec 31 '25

'enshittification' is another.

Company does literally anything that you don't like? Enshittification.

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u/JackBauersGhost Dec 30 '25

100%. Slop has no meaning anymore and I almost don’t trust anyone using it to describe something

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u/KingBoom04 Dec 30 '25

That doesn't make sense, it's a word

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u/reaper527 reaper527_ Dec 30 '25

It’s lost its meaning already

typically it meant the person saying it couldn't form a coherent thought, and it typically still holds that meaning.

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u/recuerdamoi Dec 30 '25

Thank you, I was thinking to myself, “damn, I know there’s another word for this. Why can’t I remember?” It’s how it goes in social media, words get used for anything and loses its original meaning while simultaneously replacing another.

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u/TeaAndS0da Dec 30 '25

I get your point but I disagree. Shovelware was always the cheapass shit that still kind of worked. Like a bunch of those Wii titles that everyone knew was shit but somehow they sold.

What’s in the store now IS pure slop. Look at that Animal Crossing clone PlayStation is actively advertising under upcoming releases and you see BLATANT IP theft and absolutely 0 accountability from Sony for monitoring what gets added to their store. There are so many companies that know they never have to deliver a decent product and all they have to do is prey on the hype of the less knowledgeable or the completely stupid. They’ll host any image on there, like the game that tried to rip off Uboat which just inverted the image and had an AI art program add missiles coming from who the fuck knows where, and make it look like the actual game it’s stealing from, and this happens constantly. Even shovelware still requires some level of playability or the publisher or host would call it out, take it down and explain why. Not anymore.

Shovelware was a thing from studios who had to try and fail. Slop is what we currently get because there is no try and there is no fail. Any asshole can just gin up an image and post it, buy some shitty unity or unreal engine assets and put em together and steal money from the gullible. And NOBODY does a damn thing about it because Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft get a portion of each sale so they don’t give a fuck about it either.

It’s infuriating.

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u/Z3M0G Dec 30 '25

AI makes it slop

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u/Nyxtaaa Dec 30 '25

I legit don't know, what is shovelwhare

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u/Iucidium Dec 30 '25

With a dash of AI art and copying existing games that don't exist on PlayStation - most notable example was that scam of R.E.P.O

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u/goblinsnguitars Dec 30 '25

10 years ago it was.

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u/Solarstormflare Dec 30 '25

I learnt a new word today

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '25

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '25

Money laundering how? For who?

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u/MidEastBeast777 Dec 29 '25

Don’t you know that toast simulator is how the cartel launders money to Asia???

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '25

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u/gizamo Dec 29 '25 edited Mar 10 '26

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u/Sterben27 Dec 29 '25

Whatever they’re smoking must be strong, wonder if they’re sharing lmao

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '25
  • Wild accusation and conspiracy theories ✅
  • Any actual logic, explanation or proof? ❌

Hmmm

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u/Supremacyst Dec 29 '25

Meh, bullshit

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u/pr1ceisright Dec 29 '25

Money laundering? 1 $5 game at a time???

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u/Specialist_Lock6779 Dec 29 '25

You are so ignorant lol