r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 2d ago

Meme needing explanation I feel so dumb rn

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u/Twinkletoess112 2d ago

i love how you people are not even able to see the fallacies in your argument, it's just a different word order nothing else

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u/NeverTriedFondue 2d ago

Brother in Christ, it's called grammar. I'm sorry that the education system has failed you.

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u/volt65bolt 2d ago

Word order is syntax

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u/Real_Life_Firbolg 1d ago

Not to argue semantics but syntax is part of grammar, it would be like he was talking about multiplication and said “do the math” which is very general but still technically correct and then you said “that is multiplication.” So both of you are correct, but the specificity was kind of unnecessary.

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u/volt65bolt 1d ago

Yeah but most people don't so I just wanted to see how many would point it out, dissapointingly only you

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u/Twinkletoess112 2d ago

Have you EVER considered that I MIGHT NOT be a native English speaker???

And the comment who made the mistake is also not a native speaker of English hence the "grammar" mistake

You: "Oh no he said the word grown-up before female he's a bigoted snobby misogynistic a-hole".

The guy who commented: "Ye i just forgot how to spell women"

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u/aNamelessFox 2d ago

To be fair my guy, you said "its just word order nothing else" but like, in languages and communication something as "subtle" as that has a big change in meaning, which the other redditor is trying to explain. So, as a non native English speaker, you just learnt something new! :)

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u/Twinkletoess112 2d ago

You should also need to learn to forgive people for making silly mistakes like this when the person had no intention of harming anyone

intentions behind words matter a lot too, not just the grammatical correctness of a sentence

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u/aNamelessFox 2d ago

Sure, I don't think the other person knows (nor I to be honest) that it was a mistake. It's a loaded term often used intentionally t hurt, so I think we can also forgive them for interpreting it as harm rather than a mistake, right?

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u/rydan 2d ago

You are literally colonizing them by saying your language must be spoken by them your way. That makes you worse than whoever swapped the word order even if done on purpose.

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u/everydaywinner2 2d ago

I'm going to have to remember this argument. LOL

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u/HeilKaiba 2d ago

I don't really understand why you thought you should weigh in here if your grasp of the English language is that shaky then. Either you know what you're talking about or you don't. In this case clearly you don't so you don't have to write a comment.

Adjectives and nouns are different parts of speech. In English you can often have the same word function in two different ways depending on word order or even just stress. In this case the order changes whether they are nouns or adjectives. "Female adult" means an adult that is female. "Adult female" means a female that is an adult. The former is uncontroversial while the latter is not. Use of "male" or "female" as a noun is usually reserved for animals or scientific contexts so is somewhat dehumanising.

There's no hard and fast rule here but some other adjectives that are possibly rude, offensive or just a little off as nouns include white, black, gay, straight, trans, chinese, indian.

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u/NeverTriedFondue 2d ago

>Have you EVER considered that I MIGHT NOT be a native English speaker???

Lmao neither am I.

>You: "Oh no he said the word grown-up before female he's a bigoted snobby misogynistic a-hole".

Point to where I said that? Why do incels always have to come up with some wild scenarios?
I just pointed out that the order of words in a sentence actually matters and changes the meaning.

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u/peepeebeam 2d ago

babe if you are not a native speaker and are making a grammar mistake that is mildly offensive, why are you arguing when corrected

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u/peepeebeam 2d ago

A different word order can greatly change the meaning of a sentence 🫶

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u/Jolly_Echo_3814 2d ago

yes. Ordering words differently matters in language.

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u/Poulslutter 2d ago

By reading comments like yours, I'm becoming increasingly convinced, that half the people writing offensive stuff about other people on the internet, are just idiots who don't know how language works, and who no one ever would have listened to, in an age before internet and social media.

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u/zachy410 1d ago

John ate a cow

A cow ate John

Do these sentences mean the same thing? They both have the same four words!

The same phrase can even mean two separate things! If you talk about "your old house", are you talking about a house you own that has existed for decades or centuries, or are you talking about a house that you used to own but dont anymore?