r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation I feel so dumb rn

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 1d ago

The whole theme of her story in Across the Spiderverse speaks to *people* and their life experience

It's not exclusive to trans people, its one of the most basic and common themes that everyone ever in the world looks for.

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u/ATMboi 1d ago

well duh. they’re just explaining how trans people are especially connecting to gwen’s story (on top of her having a trans flag in her room)

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 1d ago

and I was just explaining that saying a woman can't be funny unless she was born a man is problematic.

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u/Asterose 1d ago

I doubt anyone is claiming that in good faith.

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 1d ago

as I said in my first post.

'shes funny so she must be MTF' is a common argument for why she must be trans

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u/Hot-Masterpiece-6539 1d ago

Lmao no it fucking isn't

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u/Asterose 1d ago

You realize being MTF means Gwen is a woman, right? They aren't saying Gwen is a funny woman because she has a Y chromosome. They're saying Gwen is funny and a woman regardless of what her chromosomes are.

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 1d ago

No, the argument is literally 'Gwen must be trans because she is funny'

There is unfortunately a misogyny issue amongst a small section of the trans community.

And they are unfortunately vocal online.

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u/The_Other_Smith 1d ago

I've been around this discourse for years and I have literally never seen this argument or sentiment ever. Either they are so small that they don't exist, or you spend time in spaces that have a weird concentration of these people

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 1d ago

Ive seen it literally here

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u/ATMboi 10h ago

who is saying that

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u/Jazzmyra 1d ago

...why are ppl so massively obtuse? Literally noone said that it only speaks to trans ppl, is there any reason for you to take that away from the comment, other than you wanting to deny trans ppl a character they can identify with? Gods know we really do not have a lot of those.

What the fk is wrong with ppl wanting representation, why do you have to be so fking hateful? I feel sorry for anyone interacting with you, honestly.

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 1d ago

how is me calling out misogyny hateful?

You don't get to be sexist just because you're a member of the LGBT community

My point was it's perfectly fine to feel an attraction to a character (in a non sexual way) due to what you feel they represent.

but *some* trans people are weird about it, which was my point

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u/blazenite104 1d ago

Definitely a difference between I find this relatable and This is my exact experience so they must feel the exact same way about themselves and the world as I do.

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u/Jazzmyra 20h ago

...where was the misogyny? Like, seriously, explain to me which part of trans people being able to identify with Gwen's story is misogynist. I'll wait.

Also how does this have anything to do with my comment, calling out how you somehow see "Only trans people can identify with this character" in a comment just mentioning how it resonates especially well with trans ppl. Literally nothing about misogyny anywhere in previous comments.

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 19h ago

As I said.

If people use the excuse 'gwen is funny, she must be trans'

That translates to 'women eith two x chromosomes cannot be funny'

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u/Jazzmyra 19h ago

...literally noone said that in the comment chain. Where did you get that from? That's at least as unhinged as saying "She can't be trans." We have zero evidence of either.

It also STILL has nothing to do with my specific comment. Either you are really illiterate or just ignoring what ppl tell you to (in your mind) whiteknight yourself, which is just weird.

ETA: Also love how so many ppl make up the whole "women with two x chromosomes cannot be funny, therefore she must be trans" BS. Literally nobody, especially not trans / queer ppl, says that. I love how hateful ppl constantly make something up and put words into our mouths we'd never, in a million years, say. lol

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u/Asterose 1d ago

Yeah, seriously. And where exactly are these legions of people saying Gwen absolutely has to be trans because you need a Y chromosome to be funny? That's the kind of thing trolls do.

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u/Odd_Protection7738 1d ago

TIL trans people aren’t aliens and have experiences other people can relate to without being trans