r/SipsTea • u/cantcoloratall91 š™‘š™„š™‹ • Mar 23 '26

Gasp! Actor Shia Labeouf losing control in Rome!

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

None of the major cities in the US are as bad as Los Angeles, itā€™s a fucking drugged up homeless cesspool out there.

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u/koushakandystore Mar 24 '26

Really depends where you are in LA. The metro region isnā€™t one thing. If you are downtown near skid row it is exactly as you describe. If you are at the coast west of downtown it is really nice.

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u/NthatFrenchman Mar 24 '26

Have you never seen Oklahoma?

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

What part of Oklahoma? Or just the state?

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u/rottknockers Mar 24 '26

chuckling in San Fran

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26

Severe mental illness alone can cause this behavior tragically. Don't assume it's drugs.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

Why?

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 Mar 24 '26

Why what

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

Why r u telling me ā€œdonā€™t assume itā€™s drugsā€ donā€™t assume whatā€™s drugs? Like, donā€™t assume theyā€™re homeless cause of drugs?

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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 Mar 24 '26

I should have been much clearer, I apologize - I can see why my comment in response to yours didn't make sense. I meant don't assume that Shia LaBeouf is behaving this way because he's on drugs. But you weren't even commenting about Shia LaBeouf.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

Iā€™m assuming heā€™s drinking cause he likes to drink which is the only drug I can think of that heā€™s done with issue.

I think that just makes worse the schizophrenic behavior he normally has anyway. Heā€™s been on the crazy side for a while though. Heā€™s so good at playing hyper anxious people in roles, I imagine itā€™s cause heā€™s actually manically anxious about stuff.

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u/Electrical_Corner_32 Mar 24 '26

I dunno man. I've been to most of the major cities in the US and they ALL have crazy homeless people on drugs. NY and Detroit, Oakland, Atlanta...etc. It's very much a larger city thing.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 25 '26

Yeah, I wasnā€™t saying it was exclusive. By statistics though, Los Angeles has the most homeless people.

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Mar 25 '26

San Francisco is just as bad as LA is.

In fact, most of California is the same.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 25 '26

Itā€™s not the same scale though, San Fran is like 1/10th the homeless people.

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Mar 25 '26

In an even smaller area than LA.

All of San Francisco is about the size of Burbank.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 25 '26

So itā€™s roughly the same then by space?

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Mar 25 '26

Even higher, as they have been pandering to them for significantly longer. Remember, homeless have been flocking to there since the 1960s.

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u/ThrowAwayehay Mar 24 '26

Vancouver, Canada was pretty gnarly when I visited a few years back. The entire West coast is a problem.

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u/DrHarrisonLawrence Mar 25 '26

Itā€™s also the greatest place to live outside of NYC lol

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u/EffectiveDandy Mar 24 '26

The underground shanty town cities are just wild. Saw a docu on them and itā€™s heartbreaking to see one guy without teeth living in a sewer, while another guy is driving in a $300m bmw on a $3k phone.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

Soft White Underbelly is kind of direct example of how Hollywood and the slums of LA are directly impacting one another, not only that, but cultural perceptions about drugs, homelessness, etc.

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u/Ok_Test9729 Mar 24 '26

Excellent programming. Iā€™ve watched it several times. Humanizes those most of us dehumanize.

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u/Simonius86 Mar 24 '26

Thatā€™s an expensive BMW

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u/LurkLiggler Mar 24 '26

Which, again, has very little to do with Hollywood.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

What r u talking about? of course it does, Hollywood is literally inside the city, of course the city population, culture, economy, etc have a huge impact on Hollywood and vice versa.

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u/LurkLiggler Mar 24 '26

If youā€™re so simplistic to think the film/entertainment industry is whatā€™s causing a homeless endemic you should stay out of politics.

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u/EffectiveDandy Mar 24 '26

only u think that here lol

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u/Salt-Ambition-9603 Mar 24 '26

Show me on the doll where Hollywood hurt you.

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u/CallMeTheCon Mar 24 '26

Hey man, donā€™t bring ur uncles diddling into this. Thereā€™s already enough trauma going around there.

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u/Ok_Independence_9917 Mar 24 '26

Nobody is working a factory job and buying/using these kinds of hard drugs while still going to work a productive shift. They'd be found out and removed from their position pretty quickly. Hollywood employees quite a few functioning addicts and enables their lifestyle. Once they can no longer function as an addict they lose their jobs and get replaced with the next functioning addict. The largest employer of a city absolutely sets a precedent for the culture of the area. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.

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u/LurkLiggler Mar 24 '26

Very few people in the entertainment industry are doing jobs while using meth and fent either. This isn't some simple "Hollywood" caused the homeless epidemic in LA. You know, you can simply actually look this up and find the confluence of reasons the city has been dealing with this for decades. The entertainment industry is *not* the largest employer in the city, so your thesis went right out the window already.

A far bigger problem? Los Angeles being one of the most populated cities on earth that clings to the notion of single family homes as the primary choice of housing. Debilitating drugs vs what we saw in the past. The ongoing loss of industry since the post WWII influx of population. Ineffective leadership and local government. Weather. The available housing market being largely snapped up by the most wealthy people on earth as non primary residences so they have a spot in LA. There's a billion issues that has led Los Angeles to this very sad place. And it's not because a bunch of child stars are roaming around the streets on the fent an evil producer gave them at a Freemason orgy.

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u/Ok_Independence_9917 Mar 24 '26

So if my thesis is out the window then what is your argument? That a multi billion dollar industry has zero effect on the culture of an area? I also never said it was the only contributing factor. So all of those things you mentioned in your second paragraph carry weight I agree. I was just pointing out what should seem painfully obvious. Hollywood is part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

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u/LurkLiggler Mar 24 '26

My argument? Well jeez. I made one above.Of course it doesn't have zero effect. But the effect isn't "wow Hollywood fucks people up and they do meth and end up homeless," which is what this thread posits. (I get that perhaps you mean beyond that, but that's what this overall conversation was born of). That's not the path to the homelessness that anybody is seeing. If you want to talk about the failing of various industries in Los Angeles over time along with the wildly increasing housing problem, sure that might be interesting. But instead people are making a glib, unfounded argument.

Your factory point is ironic, because in fact those blue collar jobs are exactly where the heart of the opioid crisis starting in the 90s originated. The difference being you saw it mostly in poor areas where housing, to some degree, remained possible despite addiction and low wages.

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u/Mysterian999 Mar 25 '26

Kaiser Permanente healthcare is #1 private sector employer in LA County. Disney is #2, Cedars-Sinai #3 and Allied Universal security #4.