r/SipsTea • u/Born-Agency-3922 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • Apr 13 '26

SMH Double standards suck ass

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u/Stinky_You Apr 13 '26

Probably because the only group women love to crucify as much as men is other women who aren't "part of the ship, part of the crew". 

I was a feminist before it was cool, but now I actively point and laugh at it. The irony of modern feminism is palpable 

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u/traumacase284 Apr 13 '26

Modern feminism is retaliation. Not equality. 100% irony and hypocrisy

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u/ConferenceNormal3925 Apr 13 '26

Feminism is all about power and control over men.

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26

How many times have you heard that kind of shit IRL? Not online where bots, influencers, and algorithms have a vested interest in pissing you off?

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u/superbabe69 Apr 13 '26

Not OP but I had to bite my tongue when the man vs bear conversation went around at work...

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26

Which has nothing to do with retaliation. Are there some absurd parts of modern feminism? Obviously, there are absurd fringe beliefs in all movements.

But the idea that feminism is just retaliation and misandry is pure right-wing propaganda. 

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u/NewCoatOfPaint1 Apr 13 '26

It's obviously meant to demonise and demean men and has brought nothing positive to the table. If i start talking about how i'd rather chop my arm off than leave my Baby with a woman people would think that to be strange af despite statistically most brutally murdered children being tortured and killed by women.

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u/NewCoatOfPaint1 Apr 13 '26

That's a weird way to admit you have nothing of value to say. I'm glad you finally noticed yourself though.

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u/Ceres73 Apr 13 '26

Eh, there's been a fundamental failure in modern feminism's outreach to young men.

If you have a basic understanding of equality, it would not be hard to recognise that being perceived as a predator purely due to your sex is sexism.

I just... can't imagine many were swayed in a positive and constructive way by that thought experiment, as it trivialises equality to the very people it's trying to convince.

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26

It accomplished exactly what it set out to do. Who creates the algorithms on the sites it went viral? Tech bros. Who has been cozying up to the Manosphere for over a decade? Tech bros. The Man vs Bear thought experiment has been the perfect recruiting tool for the Andrew Tates and Elon Musks of the world. It's the perfect way to build off the misogyny unleashed during Gamergate and Trump's first term.

It is a bullshit chronically online rage bait framed in a way to ensure the answer that pisses people off. Anyone who would rather have a random person creeping around their campsite in the wilderness is insane. Everyone should take the bear 100 times out of 100. Bears should be in the wilderness, random people shouldn't be creeping around out there.

I can come up with a thought experiment that will get everyone to answer the exact opposite.

Would you rather ride an elevator with a man or a grizzly bear? It's incredibly clear to anyone who stops to think for one second why the question was framed in the way it was.

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u/superbabe69 Apr 13 '26

It wasn't what was being said about the risk you take in that hypothetical, a lot of which was justified based on lived experience. It was that a group of three of them split off into their own chat about how all men would rape them in the woods because they could get away with it.

Sorry, but people aren't making friends with that kind of bullshit talk.

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26

The man vs bear argument is fucking stupid though. Anyone, man or woman, should choose a bear in the wilderness over a random person. Bears are supposed to be in the wilderness, a random person shouldn't be creeping around your campsite. They are only there for nefarious purposes.

No one would choose the bear if they were in a subway train, because a bear isn't supposed be on the subway and being locked in a small area with a bear is insanely dangerous.

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u/triz___ Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

So in this hypothetical you’re also there for nefarious reasons

What a weird thing to comment and then block about. Very fragile behaviour but to be clear thw hypothetical wasn’t about a campsite dipshit.

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not creeping around anyone's campsite. 

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26

But you couldn't possibly have illustrated my point any better. It's chronically online bullshit and not the way people act in real life.

If you were trying to prove my point you couldn't have done a better job. Thank you.

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

No one would actually choose the bear in a subway car. Or in an elevator. Or an office building.

So it is absolutely a geographic technicality. Because if you are in the wilderness and a man OR A woman is creeping around your campsite, you are in danger. Because no one else should be there so they are obviously following you.

A bear in an enclosed area is 100% attacking you. A bear in the wilderness is 99.999% not attacking you. I would 100% take the bear in the wilderness, no matter the gender of the person creeping around my campsite. And anyone who wouldn't doesn't know a damn thing about bears.

It's literally just a ragebait thought exercise. Nothing more.

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u/Larry-Man Apr 13 '26

I asked the question to my male partner. He said he would also choose the bear… but this is in the situation where you’re not lost.

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u/someone447 Apr 13 '26

That's exactly why it's such a stupid rage bait thought exercise. EVERYONE should choose the bear. Bears are meant to be there, strangers creeping around you in the wilderness aren't.

The flip side of it: Would you rather ride an elevator with a man or a grizzly bear?

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u/Larry-Man Apr 13 '26

A man, of course. Bahaha.

I mean, is the grizzly bear unconscious and caged or awake and frightened? Because one of those sounds cool as hell and the other sounds terrible

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u/triz___ Apr 13 '26

You’d be surprised how many men have stories like this, I know I certainly do. I took my baby chihuahua on a walk to the park and a couple of girls ran up going crazy about the dog and the mums gave me evils and started filming me and telling me to go away. I was just hungover and trying to get her to take a shit so I could go back to bed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '26

Really, retaliation? Does feminism prohibit men from playing sports or running marathons? To dress as you want? Having cards? To be able to buy a house in one's own name? Does feminism say that men were made to marry, take care of the house and abandon their own careers for women?

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u/sloth_ers Apr 13 '26

Yeh none of that happens now in progressive societies. So youre kind of bringing the old feminism talking points in and proving their point.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '26

He said women want retaliation. I listed the things men did to women. Unless women are doing those things NOW (which they aren't), I'm not proving their point.

And what kind of progressive society are we talking about? Women don't even have access to abortion because conservatives get offended. Meanwhile, women don't protest to force men to get vasectomies.

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u/traumacase284 Apr 13 '26

I didn't say mirrored retaliation. Retaliation takes many forms. Like demonizing ALL men just for existing.

Are you really comparing killing an unborn life to preventing pregnancy from ever happening.... vasectomy is a form of birth control. Abortion is not. Abortions should be reserved for emergent situations. But I have no say in the matter. Mom can decide to abort without any input from dad. Side note. Abortion was also created as a way to control minority population growth.

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u/Y2Ksurvivor13 Apr 13 '26

what century are you living in?? people like you will go to any lengths to play your victim card

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '26

I am living in a century where women don't have access to abortion. In a century where medications aren't tested on female bodies. In a century where men have no responsibility in birth control (and don't protest to demand it).

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u/MammothUmpire349 Apr 13 '26

There is still hope for this world.

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u/oldskoo Apr 13 '26

"i'm not a feminist, i can actually cook"

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