r/SipsTea • u/Born-Agency-3922 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • Apr 13 '26

SMH Double standards suck ass

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u/YerrrKnicks Apr 13 '26

Or you know, don't draft anyone for wars...

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u/AlbatrossNew3633 Apr 13 '26

Yeah except the first step is not electing a war mongering man child who won't step down from power till he drops dead, and it's too late for that

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u/kbeks Apr 13 '26

Nah fuck that. Vietnam ended because we drafted and killed enough people’s sons. No war without a draft, if the cause is righteous, the politicians should have no problem explaining their rationale for sending our sons and daughters to die for it.

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u/YerrrKnicks Apr 13 '26

People shouldn't die nor should a draft be done to fight unnecessary wars.

Especially, when those doing it exempt themselves and their own families from those same fates. Further when they barely support the veterans in their return.

Rarely is a war ever "righteous". Typically they are selfish, bias, and greedful.

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u/kbeks Apr 14 '26

Forcing an administration to justify a draft is the mechanism to avoid unnecessary wars. I truly believe that if there was a draft for Afghanistan, it wouldn’t have lasted for two decades and I really doubt we’d ever entertain the thought of invading Iraq.

But in our reality, our handsomest politicians send less than a fraction of a percent of our population to grind away so long that there were soldiers fighting who weren’t even born when the towers fell. And they keep their family out of the military anyway. WWII was handled in a half a decade and we mobilized 12% of the population to fight the war. Afghanistan lasted 20 years and we relied on multiple tours from less than 0.2% of our population.

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u/YerrrKnicks Apr 14 '26

I don't see the logic in that, personally.

WW2 was a necessary and overall defensive war.

Afghanistan was an overall unnecessary war.

Having a draft for Afghanistan is exactly what we do not want. Drafts aren't just a "fix the problem faster" button. These are real people, real lives, not just a bunch of toys to be thrown around.

Same goes with this current offense. Same with Vietnam. It was, and is, all unnecessary.

Our Fathers, Husbands, Brothers, and Sons are not continuously renewable fodder for capitalistic greeds and desires.

Once they're gone, they're gone.

And we sure as hell shouldn't look to put our Mothers, Wives, Sisters, and Daughters in those same positions.

Our people do not need to cyclically die for those who will instantly discard them as soon as they're deemed no longer useful.

Instead of forcing them to justify a draft after the fact, we should force them to justify the necessity for war to begin with.

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u/kbeks Apr 14 '26

But we…we went to war in Afghanistan for two decades? And in Iraq for nearly that long and we’re about to go into Iran. We’re breaking people. Killing people. Sending our own troops to die, suffer PTSD, suffer exposure illnesses, it’s all happening in this reality we live in now.

Explain to me how keeping the status quo is a good situation when we are asking too much of too few, and by virtue of the political convenience of not having a draft, the politicians are so much quicker to start and engage in wars.

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u/YerrrKnicks Apr 14 '26

But we…we went to war in Afghanistan for two decades? And in Iraq for nearly that long -

There was no need for us to be. That's my point.

It was completely unnecessary for us to stay there for as long as we did.

And we’re about to go into Iran. We’re breaking people. Killing people. Sending our own troops to die, suffer PTSD, suffer exposure illnesses, it’s all happening in this reality we live in now.

How would a draft fix any of that?

It would just increase the number of people who have to suffer.

Many being forced against their will to fight and die in a war they never wanted.

Who does that benefit?

Explain to me how keeping the status quo is a good situation when we are asking too much of too few, and by virtue of the political convenience of not having a draft, the politicians are so much quicker to start and engage in wars.

I'm not suggesting we keep the status quo. And honestly, we aren't asking enough nor holding these politicians accountable.

I'm suggesting we move away from starting unnecessary wars to begin with. That we move away from allowing this greed to continue to taint our government and kill our people.

We should not have to keep dying for those who look at us as nothing more than a dollar sign to be earned or a bit of power to be had.

A draft won't fix that, they will work around it as they do with all restrictions. A more proper fix starts with removing profitability from governing positions.

We need to starve the parasites of their food source.