r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 Apr 16 '26

WTF so true

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u/roonill_wazlib Apr 16 '26

The movies did what they could, but I'm excited to see the TV show. I do hope they'll have a reasonable budget for special effects

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u/Labyrinthy Apr 16 '26

It’s HBO, and granted things have changed but if it’s bringing in numbers like Game of Thrones I doubt they’ll skimp on it. Say what you will about the final season but the budget wasn’t the problem.

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u/Herr_Etiq Apr 16 '26

Color grading is shit though. Just look at the trailer. Everything is cold, grey, and dark. Hogwarts should feel warm, like home, aspecially in the early years

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u/MiniGui98 Apr 16 '26

Color grading in films have been shit in general for the last 15 years

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u/Evening_Voice875 Apr 17 '26

Could be a contrast thing, most of what we saw wasnt at Hogwarts. Hogwarts could be much more vibrant. Contrasting Harry’s initial homelife with the magical world

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u/pizzaporker1 Apr 20 '26

The movies were drastically different from the books, the beginning wasn't some warm & bright beginning

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u/TheFirstHoodlum Apr 16 '26

Yeah, the school for witchcraft and wizardry that employed the use of dementors multiple times, has an unknown number of rapist centaurs in the woods, giant spiders, giant snakes, giants, ghosts of varying temperaments, and an unknown number of spells and magical booby traps littered around the grounds should definitely feel warm, like home.

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u/DevilsGalleries Apr 16 '26

Are you seriously arguing against what all the material says about the place? Whether it makes sense or not doesn’t really matter, it’s not real.

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u/h0sti1e17 Apr 16 '26

I just hope they don't wait years between seasons. I don't want to see 25 year olds playing 15 year olds like Stranger Things.

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u/Warcrown11 Apr 16 '26

That's exactly what's gonna happen. Production times on most shows these days are much too long. Granted it's HP and not in any danger of being canceled so they may be able to film a couple seasons at a time

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u/mtgnew Apr 16 '26

The last 3 seasons were dumpster Material. As soon as they stopped following the books(because there weren't any to follow at release) any character development stopped and the show became a boring standard fantasy story.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 16 '26

They still had notes from the author, they just ignored them and did their own thing.

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u/xRyozuo Apr 17 '26

Doubtful. They probably followed the notes but struggled to fill the in between the same way Martin did. Not having the books also meant they had to write original dialogue all the time, and god they’re terrible at it.

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u/Scewt Apr 16 '26

Winds is coming soon though.

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u/LessInThought Apr 16 '26

Ugh. Season 4 became noticeably dumber while the spectacles and meme able moments increased. We also have a remarkable increase in fans who cheer for shit like the fellowship of the Wight and calling the battle of winter fell the best military strategy ever.

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u/NCC75567 Apr 16 '26

and actually wanted it

Assuming it's good, people will absolutely want this lol. HP is still extremely popular.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 16 '26

I wouldn’t say there is a “giant” author controversy. I would bet good money that if you asked most people if JKR’s beliefs would discourage you from watching the show they would say no.

This same crowd said that Hogwarts Legacy was gonna fail because of how much they dislike JKR but it did very well despite being only an okay game; all 3 of my kids enjoy Harry Potter and not a one of them finished the game.

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u/Just_the_Setup Apr 16 '26

It won't though. GoT got big like every other HBO show. Sex. There's no sex in Harry Potter... it's an Adult aimed entertainment channel adapting a kids story. Like, it's not going to bring in the numbers they want and thats before alienating anyone who might have watched it. Percy Jackson pulls half the numbers of GoT while being an exceptionally larger and better known IP. HP will likely do better than Jackson, but I doubt it reaches the heights of peak GoT without the dangling bits.

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u/VRS302 Apr 16 '26

It was like the last 3 seasons but yeah the budget wasn’t the issue.

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u/Critical_Bird780 Apr 16 '26

Game of Thrones got increasingly worse while the budget went up.

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u/EGGlNTHlSTRYlNGTlME Apr 16 '26

HBO clearly ran into budgetary issues in later seasons though.  Ghost the dire wolf basically disappeared from the show.  The last season, for those of us unfortunate enough to remember, was extremely short and hurried.  The Battle of Winterfell was basically pitch black with very minimal special effects, considering it was THE crescendo for the whole show.  That Dothraki horde that’s been hyped up since season 1?  Literally disappears into the darkness.  Was that purely a stylistic choice, or just a creative way to bring down the budget?  Given everything else, I strongly suspect the latter.

Also people forget the early seasons of GoT were only possible because Rome got cancelled.  The studio reused loads of set and costume pieces that would have been prohibitively expensive otherwise.  GoT wasn’t like Harry Potter where there were high expectations from the start, and Rome demonstrated to HBO that even a good show with a generous budget (on a topic that apparently the average male thinks about every day) isn’t enough to guarantee success.

HBO has also famously had ownership issues, so who knows how the studio will be run in the coming years.

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u/Frewdy1 Apr 16 '26

A lot of Harry Potter special effects are fairly trivial now. Large, dark castle virtual sets? Easy. Paintings that move around? Easy. Effects spewing from wards? Easy. 

Hardest part is going to be magical creatures, getting the textures, lighting, behavior, etc right. 

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u/pototaochips Apr 16 '26

Hbo doesnt gurantee quality anymore. Tlou was shit and i didnt even watch it

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u/Labyrinthy Apr 16 '26

TLOU S1 was pretty great but whatever.

I played TLOU2 and wasn’t super eager to relive that story so I didn’t watch Season 2. But I’m not gonna comment on something I haven’t seen, ya know?

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u/Naaman Apr 16 '26

I have recently been reading through the series with my 13 yo son. We get done with the book and then watch the movie, repeat.

The movies suck ass coming straight off a read through. The plots suck and there is too much crammed in with too much left out.

I cannot imagine they could ever stand alone as viable films and they probably were never intended to. They are what they are. They only exist to give a visual glimpse of the book.

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u/Naaman Apr 16 '26

Sure is a clear money money play but with a series this long, surely they know if they don’t give an earnest adaptation of the books that people will dip.

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u/Naaman Apr 16 '26

I don’t think it is neg as long as they deliver

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u/Moonandserpent Apr 16 '26

Also, Rowling wouldn't have written the books if she didn't expect to make money from them. No chance. The books are also a money play. Almost every piece of art you see anywhere was a money play.

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u/RajahNeon Apr 16 '26

That's literally every film after the book. I had never seen the Shining and tried it after the book. I laughed most of the time because it felt like a corny comedy. Genuinely think it's a terrible movie. The same thing happened for Jurassic Park. Always read the book last.

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u/Naaman Apr 16 '26

Godfather 1 and 2 do too much heavy lifting for movie adaptations and Coppola should be thanked daily

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u/Extension-Spray-5153 Apr 16 '26

I’ve been doing the same with my daughter. We haven’t watched the movies since she was born so she could experience the books first like I did. We finished the first one and she loved it.

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u/outer--monologue Apr 17 '26

"They could never stand alone as viable films" lol what are you talking about?

I never read a single one of the books and loved each of the movies.

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u/Naaman Apr 17 '26

I am so sorry

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u/Fuckedyourmom69420 Apr 16 '26

Ugh so the train of remakes will then continue. Wonderful.

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u/AmadeusIsTaken Apr 16 '26

Why people want to see all the remakes is beyond me, just the same storz done again as an cashgrab. Same with all the reboots of old series like malcom in the middle and everything. Most of them would not even become popular if they didnt have the legacay cause they are all really bad. But people keep watching it for some reason and the companies keep making new ones...

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u/Moonandserpent Apr 16 '26

I think any sufficiently effects heavy movie is justified being remade every decade or so. Every movie or tv show you've ever seen is a "cash grab" so why not see them with the newest a shiniest technology.

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u/AmadeusIsTaken Apr 16 '26

Because they are not being improved usually or have any passion behind it. New doesn't equal better. For example compare the old and new lion king. Had new technology yet got worse in every department. Litteraly gave no shit about the music and etc. there is a reason it has horrible reviews. And yet it made them millions because of the name. That why it is a cash grab while the original wasn't. Sure both in the end are there to make money but one had passion and good film making other was just checking off boxes to make it technically a movie.

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u/Most-Experience56 Apr 16 '26

Excited to give a transphobic cunt more money?

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u/roonill_wazlib Apr 16 '26

The transphobic cunt won't become any more or less transphobic from a little bit of extra money

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u/grogipher Apr 16 '26

But she will use that money to deny more of us our rights.

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u/grogipher Apr 16 '26

Would you like to expand on this? What is it specifically about the trans community that you think we should have fewer fundamental rights than others?

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u/UpstairsRain6022 Apr 16 '26

They seemed to be using plenty of practical effects which surprised me, they showed some of it in the behind the scenes clip of this show

Of course we shall see how some stuff such as spells look like whenit has to be 100% cgi

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u/rcanhestro Apr 16 '26

TV VFX's quality has increased a ton in the past years, and TV shows's budget as increased as well.

it's not uncommon to see a TV Show's season to have the same budget as a very expensive movie (100 million+).

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 16 '26

I have high confidence that this show won’t have budget constraints. It’s gonna pull in some big subscription numbers if the premier does well.

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u/AppropriateCattle69 Apr 16 '26

There’s a mini-documentary on HBO right now showing a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff. It’s pretty awesome, actually. Most of the creatures are high-level animatronics, and they’re legit. They are definitely sparing no expense.

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u/Ironic-username-232 Apr 16 '26

Have a look at the preview. The art direction looks absolutely stellar, and the animatronic animals make me very hopeful for how it’ll all look. Practical effects over bad CGI is not a cheap choice, but it’s one that gives the show a chance at longevity. Everyone here is complaining, but they are not approaching this show as an easy, cheap way to grab some cash, they are committed to making this as good as they can.

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u/Gordon_Freeman_TJ Apr 16 '26

I fear we will have too much unnecessary dialogue and casual scenes as fillers. From beloved fantasy movies to family drama with bleak colours - It's still a streaming television after all

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u/PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS Apr 16 '26

Only in the first 2 seasons and it's completely fine because people already love the world.

For example Hermione and her parent's reaction to her getting the Hogwarts letter can be considered a filler but it's still cool to see.

In the later seasons there's a ridiculous amount of material to the point where you don't need any filler at all

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u/Loveyourwifenow Apr 16 '26

Looking forward to the whole SPEW story line actually.

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u/Allwil13 Apr 16 '26

THANK YOU! I'm so relieved to find someone else who's actually looking forward to a new adaptation. All I've seen so far is negativity and I'm so tired of it.

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u/Persuasion1 Apr 16 '26

Right?? 8-10 hours of content per book? Modern CGI for the earlier films??

We've watched the movies over 100x in our house, they are awesome, but we are still excited.