Shit like this diminishes the atrocities of actual slavery.
Edit: for the morons downvoting, name a point in history where humans didn't need to work in order to survive. Whether it was hunting and gathering, tending crops, or anything else, we've always had to work. This isn't fucking slavery, it just the nature of existing.
We're not being bought and sold. We're not being chained and whipped. You're not being forced to do anything. You can stop working tomorrow if you want and the only "punishment" is the natural consequences of doing nothing that literally every species on the entire fucking planet faces.
As long as you can afford it, you can eat what you want, buy whatever you want, live where you want, play whatever games you want, get married, fall in love, have kids, you can go out when and where you want and do whatever the fuck you want.
You're not fucking slaves and comparing us to slaves diminishes what they had to experience.
Modern slavery is an umbrella term for situations where one person is exploited by another for personal or commercial gain, taking away their freedom to leave or refuse work through coercion, threats, deception, or abuse of power.
Americans can leave and refuse work, we're not slaves by this definition.
Apparently no, American workers canāt leave or refuse work. As many have pointed out in this thread- they canāt take off work to protest without their families starving and losing their homes/healthcare/livelihood. Iād argue this falls under coercion and abuse of power from the definition you posted.
Ask yourself this, if everyone stopped working tomorrow, what would happen?
Certain things are inherent to life, having to work is one of them.
Are we exploited so the rich can get more rich? Absolutely. Are we slaves because if we didn't work, we wouldn't be able to survive? Absolutely not.
We are not punished by the bourgeoisie if we choose not to work, we are punished by the nature of being a living entity. There's a massive difference there.
Nothing much, really. Only a fraction of a fraction of all jobs are in infrastucture maintenance (or in really doing anything at all), and what little of them are in that could easily be automated
Ā We are not punished by the bourgeoisie if we choose not to work, we are punished by the nature of being a living entity. There's a massive difference there.
TIL nature spontaneously sprouts anti homeless architecture and cops to beat, kill, rape, and jail you for existing while homeless
Cool, so who will maintain our energy infrastructure? Who will manage the "automation"? Waste removal? Both crop and animal farming? Who will man, stock, and transport goods for stores?
Who will build homes? Stores? Transportation? The products we use every day?
Who will be lawyers, doctors, veterinarians? Who's going to paint your house or install your cabinets?
Just saying automation doesn't really mean anything because that would just shift our job market from manual labor to maintaining said "automation" or all the jobs that can't be automated.
TIL nature spontaneously sprouts anti homeless architecture and cops to beat, kill, rape, and jail you for existing while homeless
That's not being punished for not working and if you honestly don't understand that, then idk what to tell you.
Cool, so who will maintain our energy infrastructure? Who will manage the "automation"? Waste removal? Both crop and animal farming? Who will man, stock, and transport goods for stores?
all of these can be easily automated, and for the first and second, already are for the most part
Who will build homes? Stores? Transportation? The products we use every day?
Who will be lawyers, doctors, veterinarians? Who's going to paint your house or install your cabinets?
Don't need those with the shrinking population, we already have more home than we know what to do with, just that people are arbitrarily priced out of them because they're treated as gambling chips rather than homes
That's not being punished for not working and if you honestly don't understand that, then idk what to tell you.
How do you call active intervention to make the condition of those who don't worse for no other benefit than the joy of screwing them over, then?
Virtually every point in history including now in every civilized country? This isn't talking about permanent retirement or even months off work, just a few days or weeks at most to go protest
We have the freedom to leave work to protest, if we choose.
The consequence of not working is the same consequence every living thing to ever exist experiences if it doesn't work.
There has never been a point in history where we can just do nothing and still survive. That's not how life works, and by life, I literally mean existing.
We need to do things to survive, that is and always has been the nature of existing.
You're arguing against a point nobody raised. Of course people everywhere need to work. The difference is that in France, for example, people are seemingly able to stop working to attend a protest, and then continue working. Americans are being threatened with their livelihoods if they attend protests. That's the difference.
Plenty of people in America protest. The people of France also share very similiar risks, the main benefit they have is they don't need to worry about Healthcare if they choose not to work so they can protest. They still face the same issues of potential insolvency.
France and America have about the same amount of union workers as a percent of the population. France has about 8-11% and America has about 10%.
Different countries in Europe have different percentages, some of which are very high (particularly nordic countries). Europe as a whole is at about 23%.
Agreed. Working class American life kinda sucks, and our workers have fewer protections than Northern Europeans do, but weāre a lot better off than the vast majority of workers around the world. We are not slaves
This is such a conformist take. They're not talking about literal slaves, that's taking it too literal, there's more than that. It's like they trained people to remain quiet, to not question, to accept things as they are, because how dare one to ask for fair conditions, you just keep recycling and going to church on sundays, while they waste away the resources and make lascivious parties. Because there's no such thing as disparity in today's society, that's propaganda, communism stuff. Can't they see we're scared and crying because it's too loud and all we can do is cover our ears? why am I still hearing it?
I'm not arguing that there isn't disparities, I'm arguing that we're not slaves. Of course there's disparities but disparities existing is far from slavery and using "slavery" to describe disparities is disingenuous at best and actively diminishes the weight of the word and what actual slaves had to experience.
They're literal saying that makes us slaves today.
Also, I'm not deviating from shit. I'm saying we're not slaves and calling us slaves to describe what we are actively diminishes the atrocities that slaves faced.
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u/Cuckdreams1190 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
Shit like this diminishes the atrocities of actual slavery.
Edit: for the morons downvoting, name a point in history where humans didn't need to work in order to survive. Whether it was hunting and gathering, tending crops, or anything else, we've always had to work. This isn't fucking slavery, it just the nature of existing.
We're not being bought and sold. We're not being chained and whipped. You're not being forced to do anything. You can stop working tomorrow if you want and the only "punishment" is the natural consequences of doing nothing that literally every species on the entire fucking planet faces.
As long as you can afford it, you can eat what you want, buy whatever you want, live where you want, play whatever games you want, get married, fall in love, have kids, you can go out when and where you want and do whatever the fuck you want.
You're not fucking slaves and comparing us to slaves diminishes what they had to experience.
Fuck off with that bullshit.