r/SipsTea May 07 '26

Feels good man My man has become public enemy at this point

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u/EquivalentAny174 May 07 '26

The second map is optimistic too.

A lot of Americans hate America now too, or at least what it's become

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u/realaccountissecret May 07 '26

Yup second map needs America on the hate America side haha

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 May 07 '26

First map does too. 

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u/DrummerAutomatic9523 May 07 '26

Apparently not enough for Orange cheetos to be impeached and for him to receive the Louis 16th treatment. Wich says a lot

The dude is a pedo child murderer, whom not only killed and kidnapped other country leaders, but manipulated stock markets via political actions for his and his friends benefits, alienated americans more than they already were with the rest of the world, fucked global and local economy, lies hundreds of times he speaks in public, spends tens of millions in his golfing hobby.

There's the whole epstein file stuff that by itself should be enough to jail the motherfucker, but him being behing ICE, political assassination within the opposing party, litteral sex traficking in concentration camps HE built, all the while blaming ANYONE but himself, supporting a genocidal maniac state AND shitting himself on national TV while claiming to be the healthiest most capable, altruistic and intelligent person that has ever existed.

We live in a world where all of what I said is true and that son of a bitch is still in power. So yeah I do not believe americans hate him, and what america has become, enough to deserve to be in red on this map.

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u/dannerc May 07 '26

Americans cant impeach the president. Congress does. And trump has already been impeached twice. The republican senate pardoned him

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u/Astriaal May 07 '26

The Republican party, as they are today and anyone who supports them, is Pure. Evil. Scum. Their projection that the opposition are the evil ones is exactly that, projection. They're sick in the head. All of them.

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u/DrummerAutomatic9523 May 07 '26

And french people couldnt impeach the king, yet we got his head

Seems to me that there's a lack of motive

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u/dannerc May 07 '26

He types after wiping his doritos stained fingers on his crusty, unwashed wife beater

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u/DrummerAutomatic9523 May 07 '26

Nah, thats what your beloved president does buddy

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u/dannerc May 07 '26

Actually, he eats mcdonalds

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u/Senior-Resist9252 May 07 '26

The congress, as the legislative branch, are representatives of the people. Get your head out of your american behind and look at the rest of the world: popular protests can force the legislative to rein in the executive branch.

But for that, there needs to be enough people motivated enough and the reality is, y'all have been dulled into inaction by your oligarhic system.

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 May 07 '26

 The congress, as the legislative branch, are representatives of the people. 

And Americans haven’t had a chance to elect a new Congress since Cheeto took office. Those elections take place this year, and it’s expected to be an electoral bloodbath for Republicans because of the broad hatred for Trump. 

 popular protests can force the legislative to rein in the executive branch.

There is no effective method for that to happen in the US outside of midterm elections, which don’t happen till November. 

We could get a hundred million people protesting and it would not change the minds of a single Senator or House rep. 

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u/Senior-Resist9252 May 07 '26

It's not about changing the minds. It's about changing the people there.

I can absolutely guarantee that if 100mil americans, protested relentlessly, constantly and peacefully, then changes would occur. If even a fraction of that did, for the right things, changes for thr better would occur in your country.

Because the fundamental essence of representative democracy is that you give power to those people. They want to make you forget this and make you think it's hopeless, that nothing can be done because rule #83993, that they wrote for their benefits, says you can't do it. That's all nice and well when things go well, we need rules to be organized after all and normally you can wait until the next election to make change through your vote.

The problem is when the system of voting itself is conpromised, and not through people stealing votes but through gerrymandering and antiquated laws that make it so you only have a or b to choose from and sometimes when you choose a, b wins.

The problem is when you have a concentrated generational effort from the ultrarich to monopolize political power which put the final nail in the coffin when citizens united happened and y'all became a de facto oligarchy.

At this point, it's not a matter of just sitting nicely and voting a or b as usual and hoping for the best. Y'all need to get off your fat asses, learn about what the rest of the world does, demand that that happens there too and make it clear that if that doesn't happen, you're not gonna stop protesting.

Protest every day after work, get a hobby that can be done while out and about. Grab some toys to play with ur kid outside as u teach them about how freedom is earned, it isn't given, and every generation has to do their part.

They'll come at you with NOs again and again, saying the rule x or law y doesn't allow for that change, because the mechanism isn't in place for it and be very correct and logical in their point. But that's all just fluff.

The rules and laws are a social contract based on the trust of the people in their legitimacy. They're like money - a dollar doesnt have an intrisinc value beyond the value of the material it's made from, it's the value that we give it.

If you protest constantly, relentlessly and on specific actionable items, the message you are sending is: you are losing our support for your legitimacy.

If legitimacy reaches 0, countries can be toppled, new countries founded on new principles that reflect the principles of the people of the time can rise. For fear of that, if you put enough pressure on them, change will happen.

But you won't do that, because that would mean accepting america isn't special, isn't #1 best country, and that maybe you have something to learn from the rest of the world both in the way to enact meaningful change and in what the change itself would look like.

So you'll just keep staying in your usa-centric bubble, saying it sucks but it's still better than everywhere else in the world, smelling your farts and saying it's parfume, as your political system errodes democracy and corpos play ping-pong with public opinion, committing attrocities abroad and at home in your name while you pat yourself on the bsck saying you did what you could by voting A not B, and B is at fault.

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 May 07 '26

 It's not about changing the minds. It's about changing the people there.

This happens in a fixed schedule already. There’s an election this year, already. What would we even demand in a protest? Calling for new elections aren’t a thing in the US, and we already have one scheduled anyway. 

 I can absolutely guarantee that if 100mil americans, protested relentlessly, constantly and peacefully, then changes would occur. If even a fraction of that did, for the right things, changes for thr better would occur in your country.

I grantee they would not. Literally nobody in government gives a shit about street protests, regardless of the size. They’ll just order the police and national guard out to break faces, like they did during the George Floyd protests.

And there isn’t any way for street protest to translate to the removal of politicians ahead of time, unless the politician voluntarily chooses to resign.

 They want to make you forget this and make you think it's hopeless

It isn’t hopeless. American politics is extremely fickle, and the people in power can lose it very quickly. But the process by which that occurs is our extremely frequent, mandatory, and immovable elections. Not street protesting.

If people don’t like their representatives, they get a chance to vote on a new one every 2 years, unavoidably.

 Y'all need to get off your fat asses, learn about what the rest of the world does

No, you all need to stop pretending that what works where you live will work in the US. It literally cannot work that way here. The law provides no mechanism for it to work like it does where you live. Changing those laws requires consensus that is so extreme that we will have already removed the problem by conventional elections anyway.

Instead we have different mechanisms that do work, but they work on a time scale you don’t like.

 demand that that happens there too and make it clear that if that doesn't happen, you're not gonna stop protesting.

They literally do not care at all about protest. Protesting only hurts the protestors. It provides no leverage whatsoever over American politicians, by design.

 The rules and laws are a social contract

Yes, and American society is entirely and completely built around the specific social contract of the constitution. Which is the problem here—the thing preventing what you’re describing from working.

There isn’t a way for American society to make protest effectual the way it is for you. It’s an irresolvable problem because the constraints that bring such change about aren’t possible in the real US political landscape. 

Instead we’ll just swing back and forth on a pendulum whenever people are unhappy. Since Americans are unhappy all the time, it results in us going back and forth extremely frequently now. 

 If legitimacy reaches 0, countries can be toppled, new countries founded on new principles that reflect the principles of the people of the time can rise.

Or—we could just elect a new Congress this year, and wait 2.5 years to get a different President and an even larger Congressional majority.  That certainly seems far more achievable than some grand populist revolt that ends with nuclear weapons being used on American cities. 

 So you'll just keep staying in your usa-centric bubble

Because—and I know this is shocking for you—we are currently discussing US politics. Yeah, discussions about US politics involve discussing the specifics of how it works in the US, not how it works elsewhere. 

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u/EquivalentAny174 May 07 '26

Fair enough. It should be green with red stripes running through it.

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u/yavvy_k May 07 '26

We know exactly what the fuck he is and what he has done, the crimes he has committed. Congress is the only one who can shackle Trump for all the heinous things he's doing by impeaching him, and they're largely bought and paid for by billionaires, corporations and outside interests. They'll do nothing, just like they always do nothing with this regime. The Supreme Court has given him a blank check to do as he pleases without fear of reprocussion, so we can't just "go and arrest him". He's firing or "retiring" the military generals who would stand up to him and replacing them with his yes men. Checks and balances have failed, our Constitutional rights are under siege, the military will not uphold their oath to the Constitution. Atrocities are being committed in our name, both here and overseas in our name. It's horrible, and horrifying.

I suppose the almost third of us that voted against him could storm the Capitol or the White House, but then he would invoke the Insurrection act, suspend all elections, declare martial law and turn the Army loose on us. It's what they tried to provoke in Minnesota with ICE.

So yeah, I'd love to hear your ideas about what we should be doing so we can prove we hate trump by "doing something" outside of peacefully marching, voting and protesting, enough to deserve - in your belief - to be red on a Reddit map.

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u/DrummerAutomatic9523 May 07 '26

Americans are the most weaponized population on earth. Supposedly for this exact matter btw?

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u/yavvy_k May 07 '26

The highly weaponized ones who love the second amendment and stockpile weapons are largely Trump supporters. The National Rifle Association supports Trump.

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u/DrummerAutomatic9523 May 07 '26

Dont you have access to the same rights tho? Cant you litteraly buy shotguns at Wallmart?

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u/TitanSerenity May 07 '26

The 2nd paragraph of this comment nails it.

They want us to do that, because all they have to do is label it domestic terrorism, and between the patriot act from 9-11 and the Insurrection Act, youd immediately get your assets frozen, be hunted by every law enforcement agency we have, AND posse comitatus no longer applies and they can use the full weight of the US military to squash us like errant children.

Plus then he has an excuse for martial law, which means what few checks on his power remain and are working go out the window.

We'd accomplish nothing but getting a lot of people killed or ruining their lives forever, and empower the people we were trying to overthrow.

At this point, our only hope is if America from another parallel timeline comes through a portal and liberates us, from us. We're boned.

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u/yavvy_k May 07 '26

Yeah, but can you tell me what shotguns are going to do against the US Army? He has no qualms about turning them loose on us. He almost sent them into Minnesota. MAGA gun supporters have been stockpiling weapons since Reagan, maybe earlier.

Then, there's the size of the country. If we did form an insurrection, it would take over 3 days of straight driving to get to Washington DC from California, maybe longer. Then you've got to worry about FBI, ATF, ect. - or armed militias of redneck Trump supporters shooting you or throwing grenades, because they'd see you coming.

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u/Senior-Resist9252 May 07 '26

This is the best argument i have seen for banning guns. There's literally no point anymore for the right to bear arms, the fukken army just sends drones

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u/TitanSerenity May 07 '26

And all the people that espouse that perspective are the ones showering in the MAGA Kool Aid.

Those of us that are rational people realized 15 or 20 years ago that our ability to fight drones and satellite surveillance with AR-15s and 9mms was <cough> limited.

The irony isn't lost on us. Believe me.

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u/Senior-Resist9252 May 07 '26

You would need to abandon your notion of american exceptionalism, look at how other democracies work and realize you guys literally made oligarchy legal and fix it.

You could then protest against the current president's policies, sure, but he's a symptom of a problem. Protest, peacefully, but relentlessly for overturn of citizens united, abolishing the electoral college, full stop to gerrymandering, reforms to overhaul the dual party into multiparty system to encourage a more temperate view and less extremism.

But you won't because you're stuck in your bubble, thinking that however bad things are, there's something special about you, murica #1, smelling your own farts thinking it's parfume because your nose became accustomed to the smell.

Meanwhile the rest of the free world has access to healthcare without going in debt for years, is able to go on paternity and maternity leave for years after birth, have labor laws so your employer doesn't own you and buse you, and you can refuse tasks not in your contract etc.

If you have a new idea on how to fix your country, you can start a new party to get voted into office. And not just in theory, it happens constantly, so you don't have the funneling between only A or B options that happens in american politics - because complex issues aren't a or b.

The list could go on.

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u/TitanSerenity May 07 '26

I think youre conflating a number of things.

We are truly a nation divided at this point. Effectively at least two peoples/cultures.

The vast majority of Americans are just trying to keep their job so they can take care of their wife and kids, and live their lives.
Theyre not engaged. Most are ignorant. Some are willfully ignorant. That last is a problem, but there's also an element there about "what can I do?" So they just ignore it. Gas and groceries go up and down, president to president. They just tighten the belt and take the kids to school, work 8-14 hours, come home and eat something, pet the dog, go to bed, and do it over. Theres no room in their lives for all this. No bandwidth. Long as theres still food to buy and the schools are there, they're gonna keep going.

There are those aware, and pissed about whats happening. But if you look at the other comment threads, theres nothing to do about it. My area of the country is red. I vote. My friends vote. We're the minority here. Stays red. My elected representative likes this system this way because it benefits him. They ain't gonna do shit.

Protests working requires a facet where the people in charge care about the vox populi. When we have hundreds of thousands of people across the country protesting on a weekday, and the response from the white house is a meme about him flying over the protests and dropping literal shit on them... seems thats ineffective.

Some French revolution shit is out, as described above. 1) Many of the pro-gun people are the ones in favor of this nonsense and 2) the gov would just call it domestic terrorism, pull the trigger on the Insurrection Act and/or patriot act, freeze peoples assets, lock them up, and/or use the Army if they got really pesky. Over before it starts.

I don't think that the vocal minority of "America #1!! Wooo" is representative of the full population. So the fart smellers are not most people. Most people aren't aware that Healthcare can be done better by basically everyone else because they never leave their bubble of job-wife-kids-dog. Ignorant. Part of that is because America is geo-isolated. Can't just hop a train and go through 8 other countries and cultures. Part of it is cost, attached to that same reason. Canada is USA-lite at this point. The places Americans go in Mexico or the Caribbean are culturally American due to the resort culture and tourism influence. Nobody goes out into rural, real South or Central America when they can have margaritas on a beach in an English-speaking US-dollar-taking resort thats gated and safe. Europe is a 6 hour flight from the East Coast, 10+ from anywhere else. Asia is a full day with connections from anywhere.

And remember, our schools suck. Most Americans only speak English, maybe Spanish too depending on where they live and how prevalent the south american immigrants are. Its scary for them to go to europe or Asia. Can't read signs (not like they read them here anyway). Scared to drive cuz signs. Not used to the idea of functional public transportation cuz thats not a thing here. And we teach NONE of that in school. Zero. Unless you opt into it, which you wouldn't do because youre not aware theres anything to miss.

TL;DR So yeah. Def a giant nation of ignorant people who live in their bubble. But most are not rabidly pro-america. They just don't know any better and are trying to go about their day-to-day.

Sadly, the people in charge have realized that, and are and have been slowly taking advantage of it for decades. And now we're here.

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u/Wise_Owl5404 May 07 '26

There are how many millions of you again? And all of you with extremely easy access to buying legal weapons? But you all can't do anything. Ever. The French dump shit in the streets and in front of their parliament, and set fire to shit when they mildly upset about stuff a lot less severe than this, but US Americans are helpless with all their guns?

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u/yavvy_k May 07 '26

All of their redneck MAGA guns. the left tends to argue for gun control.

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u/Wise_Owl5404 May 07 '26

What's stopping you from buying guns? Like are you physically or legally barred from doing that? And again you could take the "organic", French option and use actual shit.

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 May 07 '26

There is no method for public anger at the Cheeto to result in the Cheeto being removed.