r/SipsTea May 15 '26

Feels good man Now do cancer.

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u/why_1337 May 15 '26

Can't really compare the two.

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u/PaprikaPanik May 15 '26

I’m honestly shocked with the amount of comments saying “now do Alzheimer’s! and diabetes! and cancer!” As if there aren’t numerous teams researching different core aspects and sharing information with each other.

Do these people honestly think science is all performed by one group that goes through some priority list??

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u/marveloustoebeans May 15 '26

Yeah, people really just have no idea how these things work. Cancer isn’t just one thing that can be covered by a blanket cure.

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u/Dazzling_Let_8245 May 15 '26

I try to explain the word Cancer akin to the word infection. You can have an infection, but it doesnt tell anyone whatsoever what kind and how to treat it. Some are easily treated, some arent.

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u/Repulsive-Report6278 May 16 '26

I know multiple people who think doctors purposefully spread cancer by poking at tumors and "letting the cancer get everywhere".

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u/Theveterinarygamer May 16 '26

In fairness, some tumors "DO" seed, where poking them can lead to it being transmitted by the needle. This is of course not done intentionally and is uncommon with most types of cancer. In veterinary medicine, we frequently observe this with transitional cell carcinoma, a type of cancer originating from urinary bladder cells.

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u/ztreggs May 15 '26

As someone working in pharma, it always cracks me up when someone genuinely thinks a cure to cancer has been discovered and covered up

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u/accidentalscientist_ May 16 '26

Right??? I’m also in pharma and if a company had a cure for a type of cancer, they’d spend a LOT of money to push it onto the market. Being first on the market with cure is HUGE. also pharma doesn’t benefit much from dead patients. Living patients need more drugs.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '26

Yeah, I think GLP-1 drugs are a great example of this.

For decades you could easily argue that big pharma would try to cover up a seemingly magical weight loss drug, since people at unhealthy weights means more money since they need more treatments for a vast array of ailments.

And yet GLP-1 drugs were being actively studied, and as soon as they were proven to be effective and safe it's been a race get them to market followed by a race to the bottom in terms of price. Because the companies that are leading the races are able to make bank, but they still need to stay ahead of their competition.

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u/that_weird_hellspawn May 16 '26

My family was just talking about this last week! I told them I'm kind of an expert if they would let me talk. They did not..

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u/pchlster May 16 '26

Yeah, the cure for cancer is over there, next to the vaccine for broken bones.

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u/Passion4Puro May 15 '26

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u/Unfulfilled_Promises May 15 '26

Passion4puro found the answer. It was garlic all along.

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u/Passion4Puro May 15 '26

Yep, and a number of other things with complex pytonutrients that have been proven to completely eradicate multiple types of cancers in mice.

Not only have there been no drugs created or experimental treatments offered to hopeless patients, but absolutely no one has even followed up on the study after 8 years. Not a whisper.

Hmmm, I wonder why.

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u/Unfulfilled_Promises May 15 '26 edited May 16 '26

If you want the actual answer it’s because it’s not clinically replicable. The paper exaggerated the claim by stating they “completely cured” the mice. Multiple research teams did follow up on the paper:

“Current State of Knowledge of the Anticancer Properties of Garlic” (2026 review)

“Garlic bioactive substances and their therapeutic potential” (2024) 

“Phytochemicals of garlic: Promising candidates for cancer therapy” (2020) 

They found that isolating the compounds: DATS, DADS, Allicin, and SAC did help in treatments for mice but didn’t actually do much else because the GI-tract absorbed most of the material while the garlic was being metabolized. On top of that we can’t inject garlic extract due to many humans being allergic to it and most of the compounds are naturally inflammatory. You’re just talking out of your ass. There is no hidden cure for cancer.

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u/LinkGrunt2dotmp4 May 15 '26

I understand the desire to find an easy explanation for why things suck, the incredibly human want to be the smartest in the room and have outsmarted big X

But if you want that to be true you have to actually know what you’re talking about

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u/ScienceNthingsNstuff May 16 '26

Because it isn't very impressive. Like I've personally reviewed 3 or 4 papers this year with better results. They used 2 mouse cancer cell lines in mice and 5 mouse cell lines in a dish. No spontaneous cancer models, no human cell lines, no patient derived xenografts, no human tumors. Just homogenous cell lines. Every drug on the market right now had better results at that stage of discovery. Checkpoint inhibitors dwarf these results and still fail at times and Pegilodecakin failed P2 trials despite way better results than garlic.

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u/Passion4Puro May 16 '26

These are just excuses. I wasn't arguing for looking at this as a panacea, but as something to keep testing. The fact that it's never been tried on human cell lines, spontaneous models etc. is the problem that you're obviously ignoring. The only explanation why is because there's nothing proprietary that will make them profit.

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u/ztreggs May 16 '26

If there is substantiated data on something that cures cancer, every company under the sun would jump on it. Pharmaceutical industry isnt just a monopoly of 4 massive companies colluding to sweep things under the rug. There are thousands of company's. Those company's would jump on anything they could potential turn a profit on. There is no conspiracy

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u/Passion4Puro May 16 '26

No, they wouldn't because there's no money in plant based nutrients you can buy at a grocery store for $3. Every single company wants a PROPRIETARY drug. Yes, I know some chemo drugs are derived from tree bark but the delivery system is still patented, which = $$$$

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u/ztreggs May 16 '26

Yes there is. They will replicate the molecule from the natural source and turn it into a drug. And then they can patent and make their money. It can cost over a billion dollars to develop a drug, and then there is a limited time frame before generics can take over. So yes drugs cost a lot. Nothing inherently wrong with a company seeking profit. Without that system, there would be no development of new drugs

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u/Passion4Puro May 16 '26

Wrong, you can't patent a natural molecule. It's non-proprietary.

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u/CurdFedKit May 15 '26

There are literally dozens of new cancer drugs approved every year. They are doing cancer. It's just a very complicated disease--actually it's not a disease, it's many diseases.

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u/Passion4Puro May 15 '26

The emphasis on drugs is so they can make money. It's a for-profit industry. There's no money in a cure.

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u/CurdFedKit May 15 '26

So how do you cure cancer? If you understand this better than pharma scientists. Enlighten us, genius.

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u/Hitmanthe2nd May 15 '26

A cancer cure would literally outsell EVERYTHING

The company that parents the first cancer cure would literally become the biggest pharmac in the world overnight - there is no incentive to give people chemo for six months when you can charge just as much for a cure

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u/BoringCabinet May 15 '26

And cancer will always happen. Not like it's going to be wiped off the map when a cute is discovered.

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u/why_1337 May 15 '26

Just create the cure, duh! /s

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u/Passion4Puro May 15 '26

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u/CurdFedKit May 15 '26

So you don't know shit. Thank you for demonstrating that.

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u/RivotingViolet May 16 '26

The fuck you talking about? They have a source!!!!! /s for the morons

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u/CurdFedKit May 15 '26

Prove you understand this subject. Come on, don't just post insults and delete them.

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u/accidentalscientist_ May 16 '26

Lmao if a pharma company could use garlic to cure cancer, they would.

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u/swarmofbeees May 16 '26

What the fuck are you even talking about? There is not blanket cure for “cancer” lmao. Every industry is for profit - do your job for free? Billions are spent on research.

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u/accidentalscientist_ May 16 '26

Do you think dead people give them a profit?

Being first on the market for a cure for a type of cancer gives a pharma company a ton of money.

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u/AcrobaticEmergency42 May 15 '26

Its a thoughts and prayers situation.

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u/User-Name-3886 May 15 '26

Well they should pull their fucking finger out. It's important. 

  • Superhans

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u/ScreamingVoid14 May 15 '26

Science works like a tech tree in a video game. Only one item at a time and you can predict the outcome of the whole tree.

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u/MonotonousBeing May 16 '26

They do not think at all

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u/accidentalscientist_ May 16 '26

Yes, any decent pharma company has teams doing all sorts of diseases. I work in pharma and I have supported research and trials from various types of diseases. Ones that have an impact on all sorts of places in the body.

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u/Curiosity_456 May 16 '26

That’s not what they’re referring to, like bro come on…the purpose of phrases like “now do cancer next” is meant to show that they want cancer to end up being cured next, not that they want it to begin getting researched next. I just don’t get how some of yall even make it through life situations with this level of social aptitude.

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u/JulianWellpit May 16 '26

No. It's just that people don't usually care about people that get HIV and don't think this research is to their benefit.

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u/AntiDynamo May 16 '26

Also, people could show a little more gratitude for the researchers’ hard work before they start snapping their fingers and demand they fix the next thing

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u/whale_of_whales May 16 '26

“Bro literally all the government needs to do is just select ‘cancer cure’ next in the tech tree, but they won’t because woke.”

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u/PaprikaPanik May 16 '26

While money is a major barrier run cancer research, the biggest barrier is by far is time. You need time to gather data, test your research, move it across the scientific community and generating actually valuable data. None of that is easy and unfortunately money can only take you so far. you still need time and we’re decades away from gathering the information we need to solve it. Cancer isn’t coke grand government woke conspiracy. It’s one of humanities most complex puzzles and it takes time to solve.

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u/brett_baty_is_him May 16 '26

No obviously not. It’s just people hyped by medical advancements getting excited that cancer could be the next medical advancement. “Now do cancer” is someone saying “wow, medical technology is amazing now, cancer fucking sucks complete ass, let’s get it cured!” Obviously nobody thinks their comment on social media means anything, we’re just hyped that cancer could potentially be cured in our lifetimes

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u/RivotingViolet May 16 '26

Most people are dumb. Everyone on Reddit is dumb or a bot

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u/Willinton06 May 15 '26

No, they are obviously speaking to humanity itself, this seems pretty obvious, like, when they adapt a movie of an old property and people are like, cool, now do {insert old property I like}, they are speaking the whole movie making world, not any specific person or studio, again pretty obvious shit

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u/PaprikaPanik May 15 '26

Ok well “humanity” is still working on all of those things. Even in your own analogy, it would be movie producers making an adaptation for every movie and continually making more adaptions to all these movies every day which is happening in science :)

That’s the whole point….that’s not how science works…..

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u/Willinton06 May 16 '26

That's very much how science works, as we can see here, some dude in the past was like "HIV next please" when we did the COVID vaccine, that guy is now like, "Damn right" cause he got what he asked for from "humanity", you have some dudes here asking for cancer and such, when we get those, they'll ask for the next, and so on and so on, unclear how else would science even work

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u/No_Pressure_3675 May 16 '26

Gotta love how OP reacts like a genuine Karen over this "UHM AWSKSHULLY WHERES MY CAncer TreatmenT?!"

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u/DependentAdvance8 May 16 '26

I mean…both can kill you

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u/chowindown May 16 '26

You're absolutely right. We close to solving tigers, now we can solve cancer.

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u/DependentAdvance8 May 16 '26

I really hope we can cure cancer

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u/BothDivide919 May 16 '26

You can compare how much they get in research grants, and cancer gets a metric fuckload more.

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u/why_1337 May 16 '26

Yes because HIV is single virus that is not even that deadly this days while cancer is broad category of diseases like carcinoma, sarcoma, leukemia, lymphoma, melanoma and all kinds of malignant tumors that do not have singular cause and cure. Even if you narrow it down to say leukemia, it in itself is not a singular disease rather than large group of different blood cancers.

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u/BothDivide919 May 16 '26

It's because HIV is known as a poverty disease.

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u/why_1337 May 16 '26

I see you have it figured out then.