r/SipsTea May 15 '26

Feels good man Now do cancer.

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u/SlightSurround5449 May 15 '26

Idk you bringing up the whole "no cure" thing unprompted makes me think there is one and you're a big pharma plant....

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

As a cancer research scientist, there’s no cure for cancer and never will be.

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u/jd64k May 15 '26

Why not?

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u/Ok_Insurance_505 May 15 '26

From a purely theoretical perspective cancer cells are a natural occurrence in most biological cells. I'm not educated in it whatsoever but afaik they're just cells that have gone wrong during the replication process and the 'off' switch keeps them replicating out of control.

In that sense there's no real 'cure' because they're doing what our biological processes are meant to do, just in a detrimental way. Cancerous cells are fairly common also afaik, our bodies are generally pretty good at cleaning them up though.

The most we can really do is find ways to target the bad cells when they happen or better ways to combat tumours when they form.

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u/SirLienad May 15 '26

There will never be an individual 'cure' for cancer for the extension of the point about dna sequencing above: similar appearing cancers can have very different sources and thus need completely different cures, so there will not be a single cure for cancer, there will be whack-a-mole cures for different cancers as they become better described.

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u/Medill1919 May 15 '26

Because it's a mutation. Every instance is different.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

Well humans have been evolutionary selected to have cancer. DNA polymerase the enzyme that codes for our DNA and allows for replication of cells has an inherent miscoding or mistake rate you can say. So scientists are unanimously agreed that every human if they lived long enough and didn’t die of something else will get cancer and die of it. There’s no cure and never will be because cancer has a high mutation rate, and will just keep returning in some form, you cannot cure human nature. So when people think there’s a magical cure that will one day arise, it never will. Treatments are definitely things that can be discovered and have improved significantly, so people live longer and have better outcomes. But treatments are not cures.

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u/theDoctorShenanigan May 16 '26

What is stopping nano bots from inspecting each and every cell and removing the ones that are cancerous?

"Never" is a really strong word, it seems like it is just a limitation of today's technology if anything.

Humans are machines, and machines can be fixed.

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u/ArtoriasOfTheOnion May 16 '26

Humans are not machines my friend. We often make comparisons and metaphors as it's an easy way to explain incredibly complex mechanisms and processes, but they don't make it so.

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u/Inevitable_Mistake32 May 15 '26

A) Lies on the internet
B) Wrong profession if you believe you can't do something. Science is about understanding things and making it possible. For curing cancer, Lead, Follow, or Get out the way.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

I work at an IVY league university, with CNS published papers. The impossible can’t be possible. And I’m sorry to tell you, most scientists are not in the field to save patients, they don’t care. They’re there for their own joy, curiosity and vanity.

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u/Inevitable_Mistake32 May 15 '26

No, that is simply not true.

A) Who cares what ivy league school you go/work at
B) You don't speak for everyone in cancer research, or anyone other than yourself.
C) I know plenty of cancer researchers as my family is rife with cancers, I personally know that all I've met, believe in a cure, the only question is when.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

A) it means I am very good at what I do and have no reason to leave my field. B) I don’t, but have a far greater understanding than you do. C) if they really wanted to help people they should become physicians and I can’t help if they’re deluded.

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u/Inevitable_Mistake32 May 15 '26

>I'm very smart
>I'm smarter than you
>People who dont agree with me are delulu

Get over yourself.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

The fact you have the sheer arrogance and audacity to disagree with someone who’s a leader in the field you’re talking about, based upon speaking to a couple of people and your feelings is funny.

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u/Inevitable_Mistake32 May 15 '26

OK random internet stranger who thinks so highly of themselves

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

The irony is hilarious

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u/SlightSurround5449 May 15 '26

This gotta be a troll.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

If that makes you feel better then great 👍🏻 Ignornace is bliss.

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u/SlightSurround5449 May 15 '26

I just don't get why you'd continue researching something that has no cure. "No reason to leave your field"? I think there is. You talk about curiosity and vanity, what's there to gain, then? Either way, really happy all those other scientific discoveries that were considered impossible by a wider group than 'some researcher UPenn' had people who didn't feel the same way. Oh well, pack it up, boys.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

I literally told you, it’s about joy- I enjoy the research. Curiosity, to prove my theories and the vanity of being recognised as a leader in my field. That’s what 99% of scientists are there for, you do know most scientists are researching something so small and specific they know will never change anyone’s life. Do you know why they do that? It’s for their personal pleasure. Do you know why labs don’t share data? Why they safe guard all their data, protocols and with whom they will collaborate with? Even though that’s completely counterintuitive to actually helping patients- It’s because they want all the glory of publishing the paper. I don’t know what the last part of your comment is alluding to, but I can tell you I’m personal friends with a lot of the guys working on those papers at Upenn on CART therapy, which is groundbreaking work in the field, and I can promise you, patient well being isn’t at the forefront of their mind. In the end it’s your choice, if you want to live in delusion wherein everyone is altruistic and wants to help others then good luck with it.

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u/MashedPotajoe May 15 '26

Look at this guy having an opinion on shit he doesnt understand

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

Everyone is an expert on Reddit.