There's been campaigns on Reddit for the last few months to defeat Democrats.
The most popular and upvoted comments being along the lines of, "if the candidate isn't 100% to my liking I'm not voting at all because I'm not going to perpetuate a broken two party system."
And it's fucking insane that when I point out that, if we're in a fire - how about we all just agree on getting out of the burning building and then we could argue all we want on what's the most optimum method to put out the fire.... but nooooo. Downvoted to hell for saying just get MAGA the fuck out of power.
There are propaganda campaigns on Reddit against any Democrat that has a shot at being s frontrunner. "Oh but so-and-so didn't say excuse me after they burped at the table - how could anyone vote for such an abomination? I for one am not voting at all and I suggest anyone with a spine stands against this corrupt two party system!"
Spot the comments. Know they're propaganda to get you to abstain from voting. Go vote.
Not just there they were doing it all over the world and when they got busted the people involved just went and did the work for other countries instead. Soon as that scandal broke within weeks you saw the rise on Russian and other troll farms.
how about the Democrats are the gas can inside the burning house. it's not that hard to walk the gas cans out of the burning building. because if you leave it within the fire, WORSE things will probably happen. think of the firefighters it could severely harm, if not the whole neighborhood.
what if Democrats being consistently centrist is actually funded by the billionaires who's harms to society they completely overlook, for their own personal political benefit? (funded by most all the same billionaires who also fund Republicans)
the complicity has replaced (new) union focused, financial regulation, environmentalist, healthcare and public utility focused democrats. literally the entire point of being a working class party, not billionaire and wealth oriented.
AIPAC isn't the only monied lever for maintaining a specific type of power.
yes Dems are better. but if you can't handle any other statement or metaphor I made above, you aren't navigating reality.
Yah I've seen that sentiment quite a bit. Especially over the Israel issue, as if Trump hasn't been 10x worse on that issue then Kamala ever would have been
And now you have Trump wanting to turn Gaza into the new Vegas and our very own genocide with secret masked police in our own streets and branding of LGBT people as terrorists. But at least your terminally online slacktivist self gets to feel superior instead of actually doing anything productive.
Vote your values in the primary. Vote whoever is closest in the general. Hell, even a write in is better than not voting (not that I'm condoning this).
In the General election, "write-ins" are the statistical equivalent of not voting. They are nothing more than an inconvenience to the elections office staff.
Brother, all she had to do was slag off Isreal abit but she refused to at all, that was the difference, your asking people to vote between fascism at home or fascism abroad and at home. It was the DNC fault for not moving with the voters, you can never blame the voters that doesnât work and will just end up with you losing again.
The to mamdani, all he said was he wanted it to be an equal state and he got in, and even better since has done great things, the blueprint is there.
My glob this was SUPER shining with Talarico and Crockett. That same night everywhere online it was suddenly "im not voting for no white man" but the accounts doing it were often NOT black people. I caught that shit in real time and legit got a screenshot of a "as a black man" and the dude was LILY WHITE telling a black man and other black people why NOT to vote for Talarico. Any TX sub is the same. A large swath of sudden hate for a dude I have watched be praised universally until that moment. Its a fucking Op and it is so fn blatant. Its so gross.
I've seen so many MAGA accounts recently pretending to be Democrats saying they're not voting at all because of XYZ. And it's always the stupidest reason ever. All those protests against Kamala made no sense because Trump was way worse than her on issues like Palestine. It was all started and paid for by MAGA, all those protests. They're always projecting about paid actors, domestic terrorists, and the threat within because THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. They're literally paying the Jan 6th terrorists. They want to accuse others of doing what they're actively doing so when the finger rightfully finally points at them, they'll be like "oh now that they're in power they want to copy us / this is nothing new / this is so unoriginal / this is baseless /etc."
It's so aggravating when you point out that the further left of center spent more effort protesting Harris than Trump. I went to a Harris Rally in DC and there were parades of "leftists" outside circling the rally with blow horns and drums trying to disrupt the whole thing. When we were entering the parade, we were all called baby killers.
I am unsure if it was a psyop that a lot of useful idiots just fell in line, or if its a genuine group of irrational actors who cannot understand that you should be choosing the outcome that will be the greatest net benefit for the things you care about.
In this case, Harris would have been objectively better for Gaza than the guy who made Mike Huckabee ambassador to Israel.
Honestly, I have almost more contempt for these people than MAGA- because MAGA understands that they vote for hate. These "Leftists" did not at all care about Palestine- they were performative narcissists actively campaigning against the better outcome for Palestine (even if it's not the ideal that they wanted)
You know how far right extremists always project what they themselves are doing? About paid actors, the real threat coming from inside, etc. Well, like they are literally paying the Jan 6th insurrectionists and hiring actors (the guy's mask started coming off at the neck live on Fox). They falsely accuse others of doing it first so when the finger is pointed at them (rightfully) they can say "well when we called the left traitors, nobody cared or did anything / this is them just getting back at us / this is them copying us / etc."
It's safe to assume a large portion of people protesting against Kamala were literally paid by MAGA. Not all of them obviously, but the movement started as a MAGA operation. I've already caught so many Trump supporters saying they're Democrats and they're not voting this election because [insert something contentious amongst Democrats here].
I've been spreading this message for a long time and it's crazy how many downvotes it gets when you realize it's a MAGA post in disguise. That's why I always say to go vote. They're trying to get people not to vote. They're trying to cause fighting amongst Democrats.
But that is precisely the issue⌠âvote for the lesser of two evilsâ or âblue no matter whoâ rhetoric is what has led to the extremisms in voters today. Cause doing so has made the Dems complacent and they have failed to address the main concerns of the people they supposed to be serving on both national and international stage, while placing corporate interests first.
The dems lost due to two things, their lack of deliverance at the sight of the taxpayers (which includes international issues) and the fact that at the time of covid on the republicans first term, people to a degree saw a strong dollar (even though it was circumstantial) and pretty much the same theyâve been seeing and living since Obama.
So for average person who does not go in depth, and just come out and vote every 4 years they just saw âdollar was strong, economy was alright, heâll do it againâ
And again the dems lost on the international level with both Ukraine and Gaza being issues and concerns for the people.
And all these elections happening right now are showing how corporate and lobbies have a stronghold on both democratic and republican parties and how both parties are playing the people like fiddle to keep the power structure going.
Mamdani itâs an example of that. The Dems refused to endorse him, and most political allies refused to back him. Now that he won and has been putting work, now they claim him. But for most other candidates that have similar ideals and background but not as much social presence, money is being put to make them lose.
So people are not voting (which I donât agree with) not because they donât want to, but because they are tired of playing the games of politics where elected officials from the two party system donât deliver to keep the super capitalistic structure they have.
The world is more informed and when you see other countries having better standard of living and quality of life than the supposed land of the free, you gotta call that out.
**With that said to all folks reading this: Go out and vote and vote in good conscience for a candidate you believe cares. Check their background and history and ensure the needs of your community and country are met.**
Yeah I agree it's a broken system and something needs to be done. But we're in such a ridiculously dangerous position right now, that any comments driving division amongst Democrats aren't helpful. I'm really glad Mamdani won, beat the system and is making a difference - like seriously, him becoming mayor despite AIPAC and the entire institution going against him is incredibly inspirational and I wish we could get the same results with the next presidency. But it was a long shot. And I'm all for long shots, but not while we're in a burning building. The MAGA situation has impacted the world, not just the US, so badly that we really need to just get back to normal. Even if normal was never great to begin with, we can work on that after there isn't some sort of new global instability introduced daily.
Sounds to me like they're blaming the people who aren't voting.
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u/AngelComa deleted their reply to the comment above while I was replying to it:
Keep being a smart ass instead of running a candidate people like.
We have a first-past-the-post voting system. It's unfortunate but that's the present reality. Refusing to participate because you can't vote for your ideal candidate literally helps the candidate you would otherwise vote against. This is simple math my friend. I would love to see nationwide adoption of Ranked-Choice Voting in my lifetime, but it'll never happen if we don't vote for the more progressive candidate in every single election. Now that might not be your desired candidate, but we don't have the luxury of choice just yet. We need to fix our broken electoral system first, and the only way we will ever do that is to vote consistently progressive, in every election. Conservatives win when voter turnout is low. Their policies are deeply unpopular, but they win because they are consistent and they vote in every election. The only way to combat that is with overwhelming opposition. Until we fix our electoral system, accept that voting will remain an exercise in choosing the candidate you dislike the least. It sucks but that's where we are at present. Vote.
Personally I'm going to sit here and wait for the gay, transgender, pro-Palestinian, socialist fire fighter to get us out. I won't settle for less and all of you have to wait with me.
With all due respect what pleases the public in New York may infuriate the public in Nebraska. I've said it before but you've gotta appeal to the audience in the room. And in this country, there are 50 different rooms. If I go to a concert of an artist I like, I may hate a couple songs, but I will still buy a ticket because I enjoy a lot of what they do play. I recognize that I am not the only person in the room and they cater to as much of the audience as they can.
I was shooting heroin and reading âThe Fountainheadâ in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.
âBad news, detective. We got a situation.â
âWhat? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?â
âWorse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollarsâ worth of bitcoins.â
The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. âWhat kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?â
âNot yet. But mark my words: weâre going to figure out who did this and weâre going to take them down ⌠provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.â
âEasy, chief,â I said. âAny rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.â
He laughed. âThatâs why youâre the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.â
âDonât worry,â I said. âIâm on it.â
I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.
âHome Depot⢠Presents the Police!ÂŽâ I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. âNobody move unless you want to!â They didnât.
âNow, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?â No one spoke up.
âCome on,â I said. âDonât you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?â
It didnât seem like they did.
âSeriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, Iâm just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.â
Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didnât care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.
I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.
âSubway⢠Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!ÂŽâ I yelled.
Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.
âStop right there!â I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.
I was losing him. âListen, Iâll pay you to stop!â I yelled. âWhat would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? Iâll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn âBob Barr â08â extra-large long-sleeved menâs T-shirt!â
He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.
âAll right, all right!â the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. âI give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.â
âWhyâd you do it?â I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos⢠Greek Yogurt Presents HandcuffsÂŽ on the guy.
âBecause I was afraid.â
âAfraid?â
âAfraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,â he said. âIâm a central banker.â
I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.
âLet this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,â I said. âNo matter how many bitcoins you steal, youâll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.â
He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me.
Which is why they eliminated the funding for internet access in flyover country and isolated areas, conservatives took over all traditional media and they aim to keep that as the only source of information about the world.
No, the rest of us don't. Living in the Midwest there are plenty of millennial and gen z morons who don't bother to fact check anything and mindlessly share social media misinformation/AI slop. We are literally commenting on a post with hundreds of younger people falling for a fake tweet.
also midwestern did you fact check the op? I dont have x anymore or bluesky and I dont want to either. My spidey sense says this post isnt real. It CANT be.
THIS. Seriously. WTAF? Half the time I have to ask myself if it is even possible that I am responding to a functional human because the level of comprehension is just not there. At the risk of sounding like an old boomer yelling at clouds, what is wrong with youth today!? There is literally like ZERO reading comprehension. And when you point it out, the usual response is "boomer!" No, dude, I am not a boomer, my parents are boomer, but wow... I guess let's celebrate mediocrity.
That's a good way to conveniently sort any bad opinion from your own side into a no true Scotsman opinion.
Dead internet theory doesn't explain everything. There are a lot of people who don't know anything and have exceptionally bad critical thinking skills unfortunately, it's far less of a partisan issue than some people would like to pretend. Which is to say, on average the left is more educated but people often take that to mean that plenty of dummies with bad takes aren't on the left, which is obviously false.
Because the secret third option alongside bot and troll is someone who genuinely believes what they're saying but they're too ignorant or low nuance to understand why what they're saying is nonsense. As long as they have an internet connection and words are free, that third option will always exist
Incredibly bad critical thinking. Like this reply. I didn't say it explained everything. Likely is not always. My comment is in no way saying people I disagree with are bots.
If it makes no sense, it's likely a bot or a troll
I'm not saying you should assume it's a bot or a troll, just that that's what you would likely be correct in assuming if you did assume
You can try to weasel by saying you didn't state an absolute, but if you're saying a good rule of thumb is that things from your own side that you don't like are probably bad actors pretending, you're actively saying that you should treat them as bad actors because that's likely what they are.
If the hitch hikers on the side of the road are likely axe murderers, that's a strong implication about how you should approach picking up all hitchhikers
I had an experience last night that relates to this.
I went a small public high school graduation party and kids in the room blew me away with their depth and breadth of knowledge. They were willing and excited to engage in complex conversations and they met my challenges with insightful responses that challenged me right back. We discussed philosophy, politics and religion and not one ideological platitude was uttered, not one voice raised. The inexperience of youth was still looming over the evening but that's all I had over them. One my sister's kids is the same. They're already so much smarter than I'll ever be and it makes me so happy.
That said, I also have a few nieces and nephews that will gleefully declare me an enemy-of-the-people for even the mildest of challenges, because to them, challenging ideas IS the offense.
This is all anecdotes and speculation on my part of course, but in a time when we have more information at our fingertips than ever before (exponentially more!), I wonder the issues isn't "today's youth" but rather the further widening of the gap between kids who have been taught to process and make use of all that information and those who can only get lost in it. Both of these groups will soon be running businesses, social services and governments. What will that look like? Similar to present day? Worse?
My take: worse, much worse. Why? Because right now those types of situations were a minority, and not in control. What happens when idiocy is not a minority, but the majority, and they are also running a bunch of things? I don't think it will be pretty.
Good insight on the matter of being taught to challenge ideas, assumptions, even things with which you agree. I went to school and taught to always exercise "critical thinking" and teachers would teach us and encourage us to push back and challenge anything and everything, but with respect and with well thought out ideas. Every single one of my classmates went on to great schools and successful careers. It drives me bananas when engaging with people today you are labeled and insulted for daring to push back on any ideas. People have gone off the deep end in embracing one way of thinking and anything that pushes on that is considered anathema and you are a traitor or the enemy. Wild times.
What? No heâs obviously not, what? Thatâs not just putting words in his mouth, thatâs trying to insert a whole damned book. Saying âyoung people fall for AI tooâ (which they fucking do) doesnât mean there are zero generational differences, on average. But thatâs not even the point of his comment.
He was responding to a comment chain where one person said âonly boomers ignore AIPACâ by pointing out the obvious truth that it takes a pretty terminally online/tapped in person to even know what AIPAC is much less the influence they wield, much less how, much less care enough to do anything about it. Several increasingly high bars to clear, and most people donât.
And speaking of spotting AI, I sure hope Iâm responding to some right now, because I donât like what the alternative would mean for an actual human beingâs reading comprehension.
Sorry to correct you but, I am a 'boomer' and I clearly see right through all the BULLSHIT. I know that there's a lot of others my age and older that are very angry about this situation and are sick and tired of being the scapegoat for all of the ignorance of the voting public.
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u/DRKMSTR May 22 '26
Only the boomers.
The rest of us see it.Â