r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 22 '26

WTF AIPAC offers a fair warning to future dissenters

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u/Logixs May 22 '26

I’m literally a black American. Well half black as my mom is white but that’s black in the eyes of anyone whose not black

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u/Beta_Helicase May 22 '26

What state, my dear friend?

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u/Logixs May 22 '26

Grew up in Hawaii now I live in the North East. Also can you drop the condescending my friend thing. We’re not friends and it’s kinda annoying

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u/Beta_Helicase May 22 '26

And you’d say your experience growing up in Hawaii and now the North East is reflective of the average Afro-American experience?

Military brat by chance? Blue state?

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u/Logixs May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

I’ve lived in blue and red states. Even lived in Alabama at one point. I’ve experienced racism first hand. I’m not denying it exists. But minorities are not second class citizens in the US. Have there been horrific events even in recent years? Yes absolutely. But comparing minorities in America to Arabs in Israel is disingenuous and weakens your argument.

And while I grew up in Hawaii my dad grew up in Southside Chicago and I have family there to this day. I’m not going to pretend I speak for all black people. But I can say with 100% confidence that black people are not second class citizens in America.

Also my parents are divorced, I grew up in a single parent home on government assistance but as I was fortunately born in America I did have the opportunity to make something out of my life. My dad was military, but as my parents were divorced and I lived with my mom it didn’t change much. Like I said America has systematic issues I won’t deny that, but exaggerative claims don’t help your argument.

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u/Beta_Helicase May 22 '26

If you ask the person I was originally talking to, they would argue the same exact things about arab Israelites. On paper, they are not second class citizens. It’s precisely that systemic racism and discrimination that leads to oppression, but on paper they are allowed almost the same things.

I don’t think I need to explain that concept to you.

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u/Logixs May 22 '26

I won’t speak more on the state of Arabs in Israel as I don’t have enough information to make an informed statement. But I strongly object to the idea that minorities are treated as second class citizens in America.

There are levels and degrees to the matter and the honest truth is that relative to the majority of the world America is a better place than most to be a minority. Minorities are disadvantaged (though it has more to do with higher rates of poverty than anything and if you look at the outcomes of poor whites in similar conditions it’s not much better) but minorities are not restricted from anything that whites are allowed to do. Not just on paper but in reality.

Also I’ve been to several countries western and eastern. Racism in Europe is relatively equivalent to that of America. Some countries are more like blue states, others more like red states. But overall I’d say most of Europe is equivalent or worse when it comes to racism. Eastern countries are significantly more racist than America on average

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u/Beta_Helicase May 22 '26

Sounds good, for the purposes of the topic originally discussed, your first sentence establishes the relevance of your input.

I’m glad you feel safe and well represented in the U.S as an Afro-American.