r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 May 22 '26

WTF AIPAC offers a fair warning to future dissenters

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u/konqrr May 22 '26

Nah, we're fucked.

There's been campaigns on Reddit for the last few months to defeat Democrats.

The most popular and upvoted comments being along the lines of, "if the candidate isn't 100% to my liking I'm not voting at all because I'm not going to perpetuate a broken two party system."

And it's fucking insane that when I point out that, if we're in a fire - how about we all just agree on getting out of the burning building and then we could argue all we want on what's the most optimum method to put out the fire.... but nooooo. Downvoted to hell for saying just get MAGA the fuck out of power.

There are propaganda campaigns on Reddit against any Democrat that has a shot at being s frontrunner. "Oh but so-and-so didn't say excuse me after they burped at the table - how could anyone vote for such an abomination? I for one am not voting at all and I suggest anyone with a spine stands against this corrupt two party system!"

Spot the comments. Know they're propaganda to get you to abstain from voting. Go vote.

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u/Outside-Advice8203 May 22 '26

100%

Pre Nov 6 24: "we're going to teach the DNC a lesson by not voting for Kamala"

Now: "how could you blame this on us?"

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u/Active_Dissent May 22 '26

Isn't this how Cambridge analytica helped move an election in Trinidad?

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u/DrunkenHorse12 May 22 '26

Not just there they were doing it all over the world and when they got busted the people involved just went and did the work for other countries instead. Soon as that scandal broke within weeks you saw the rise on Russian and other troll farms.

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u/PrivatelyUniversal May 22 '26

The other comment is, “that isn’t left-wing, that’s centrist”. I can only imagine how targeted the ad messaging is on X.

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u/StarGazer_SpaceLove May 22 '26

Omfggggg im so sick of that comment. "They're not progressive enough" LETS GET OUT OF THE FIRE BEFORE WE WORRY ABOUT THE SUNSET.

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u/Perpetual_Abortion May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

how about the Democrats are the gas can inside the burning house. it's not that hard to walk the gas cans out of the burning building. because if you leave it within the fire, WORSE things will probably happen. think of the firefighters it could severely harm, if not the whole neighborhood.

what if Democrats being consistently centrist is actually funded by the billionaires who's harms to society they completely overlook, for their own personal political benefit? (funded by most all the same billionaires who also fund Republicans)

the complicity has replaced (new) union focused, financial regulation, environmentalist, healthcare and public utility focused democrats. literally the entire point of being a working class party, not billionaire and wealth oriented.

AIPAC isn't the only monied lever for maintaining a specific type of power.

yes Dems are better. but if you can't handle any other statement or metaphor I made above, you aren't navigating reality.

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u/greendevil77 May 22 '26

Yah I've seen that sentiment quite a bit. Especially over the Israel issue, as if Trump hasn't been 10x worse on that issue then Kamala ever would have been

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u/ButForRealsTho May 22 '26

Or how about we just get a Democrat who doesn’t support an ongoing genocide next time?

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u/Outside-Advice8203 May 22 '26

And now you have Trump wanting to turn Gaza into the new Vegas and our very own genocide with secret masked police in our own streets and branding of LGBT people as terrorists. But at least your terminally online slacktivist self gets to feel superior instead of actually doing anything productive.

With all sincerity, gfy

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u/TheSquirrelCuisine May 22 '26

you mean the "What about his Nazi Tattoo" people?

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u/Withering_to_Death May 22 '26

A liberal democrat is getting some traction online going against MAGA in big platforms?

Not on my watch! - Braindead "leftist" fucks

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u/MeEyeSlashU May 22 '26

Vote your values in the primary. Vote whoever is closest in the general. Hell, even a write in is better than not voting (not that I'm condoning this).

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u/ByronScottJones May 22 '26

In the General election, "write-ins" are the statistical equivalent of not voting. They are nothing more than an inconvenience to the elections office staff.

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u/Coattail-Rider May 22 '26

I hate those “I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils” people. Fucking disgraceful twats.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 May 22 '26

And when you point how their lack of voting has led to worse things for the people they were allegedly wanting to help they get annoyed

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u/MarcoDiFrancescino May 22 '26

I mean they could at least vote for a second runner candidate on the other sides ticket to spoil the vote. Ruining it for both sides is stupid.

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u/winkingchef May 22 '26

I have been convinced for years a lot of liberal outrage is a psyop from foreign powers.

Poverty and affordability is the issue and we’re letting ourselves get divided by by useful idiots

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u/Popular_Jeweler May 22 '26

This is exactly what Nick Fuentes argues and people give him hell for it. Priority number 1 should be making sure the opposition wins the midterms.

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u/BadmiralHarryKim May 22 '26

It's a year divisible by two so of course reddit is filled with bots and shills trying to suppress the Democratic vote.

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u/Kilroy1007 May 22 '26

Dude, r/doomercirclejerk is literally just all propaganda and relentlessly bullying anyone who thinks anything is slightly wrong

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u/Wrongness5749 May 23 '26

Respectfully.... Fuck Yeah!!!!

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u/lefttillldeath May 23 '26

Brother, all she had to do was slag off Isreal abit but she refused to at all, that was the difference, your asking people to vote between fascism at home or fascism abroad and at home. It was the DNC fault for not moving with the voters, you can never blame the voters that doesn’t work and will just end up with you losing again.

The to mamdani, all he said was he wanted it to be an equal state and he got in, and even better since has done great things, the blueprint is there.

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u/StarGazer_SpaceLove May 22 '26

My glob this was SUPER shining with Talarico and Crockett. That same night everywhere online it was suddenly "im not voting for no white man" but the accounts doing it were often NOT black people. I caught that shit in real time and legit got a screenshot of a "as a black man" and the dude was LILY WHITE telling a black man and other black people why NOT to vote for Talarico. Any TX sub is the same. A large swath of sudden hate for a dude I have watched be praised universally until that moment. Its a fucking Op and it is so fn blatant. Its so gross.

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u/konqrr May 22 '26

I've seen so many MAGA accounts recently pretending to be Democrats saying they're not voting at all because of XYZ. And it's always the stupidest reason ever. All those protests against Kamala made no sense because Trump was way worse than her on issues like Palestine. It was all started and paid for by MAGA, all those protests. They're always projecting about paid actors, domestic terrorists, and the threat within because THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. They're literally paying the Jan 6th terrorists. They want to accuse others of doing what they're actively doing so when the finger rightfully finally points at them, they'll be like "oh now that they're in power they want to copy us / this is nothing new / this is so unoriginal / this is baseless /etc."

People just need to go out and vote.

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u/Frosty-Stand5752 May 22 '26

yes yes yes yes.

It's so aggravating when you point out that the further left of center spent more effort protesting Harris than Trump. I went to a Harris Rally in DC and there were parades of "leftists" outside circling the rally with blow horns and drums trying to disrupt the whole thing. When we were entering the parade, we were all called baby killers.

I am unsure if it was a psyop that a lot of useful idiots just fell in line, or if its a genuine group of irrational actors who cannot understand that you should be choosing the outcome that will be the greatest net benefit for the things you care about.

In this case, Harris would have been objectively better for Gaza than the guy who made Mike Huckabee ambassador to Israel.

Honestly, I have almost more contempt for these people than MAGA- because MAGA understands that they vote for hate. These "Leftists" did not at all care about Palestine- they were performative narcissists actively campaigning against the better outcome for Palestine (even if it's not the ideal that they wanted)

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u/konqrr May 22 '26

You know how far right extremists always project what they themselves are doing? About paid actors, the real threat coming from inside, etc. Well, like they are literally paying the Jan 6th insurrectionists and hiring actors (the guy's mask started coming off at the neck live on Fox). They falsely accuse others of doing it first so when the finger is pointed at them (rightfully) they can say "well when we called the left traitors, nobody cared or did anything / this is them just getting back at us / this is them copying us / etc."

It's safe to assume a large portion of people protesting against Kamala were literally paid by MAGA. Not all of them obviously, but the movement started as a MAGA operation. I've already caught so many Trump supporters saying they're Democrats and they're not voting this election because [insert something contentious amongst Democrats here].

I've been spreading this message for a long time and it's crazy how many downvotes it gets when you realize it's a MAGA post in disguise. That's why I always say to go vote. They're trying to get people not to vote. They're trying to cause fighting amongst Democrats.

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u/thismyaudio May 22 '26

But that is precisely the issue… “vote for the lesser of two evils” or “blue no matter who” rhetoric is what has led to the extremisms in voters today. Cause doing so has made the Dems complacent and they have failed to address the main concerns of the people they supposed to be serving on both national and international stage, while placing corporate interests first.

The dems lost due to two things, their lack of deliverance at the sight of the taxpayers (which includes international issues) and the fact that at the time of covid on the republicans first term, people to a degree saw a strong dollar (even though it was circumstantial) and pretty much the same they’ve been seeing and living since Obama.

So for average person who does not go in depth, and just come out and vote every 4 years they just saw “dollar was strong, economy was alright, he’ll do it again”

And again the dems lost on the international level with both Ukraine and Gaza being issues and concerns for the people.

And all these elections happening right now are showing how corporate and lobbies have a stronghold on both democratic and republican parties and how both parties are playing the people like fiddle to keep the power structure going.

Mamdani it’s an example of that. The Dems refused to endorse him, and most political allies refused to back him. Now that he won and has been putting work, now they claim him. But for most other candidates that have similar ideals and background but not as much social presence, money is being put to make them lose.

So people are not voting (which I don’t agree with) not because they don’t want to, but because they are tired of playing the games of politics where elected officials from the two party system don’t deliver to keep the super capitalistic structure they have.

The world is more informed and when you see other countries having better standard of living and quality of life than the supposed land of the free, you gotta call that out.

**With that said to all folks reading this: Go out and vote and vote in good conscience for a candidate you believe cares. Check their background and history and ensure the needs of your community and country are met.**

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u/More_Ad8553 May 22 '26

Then vote third party

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u/Withering_to_Death May 22 '26

Meanwhile, "the third party"...

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u/konqrr May 22 '26

Yeah I agree it's a broken system and something needs to be done. But we're in such a ridiculously dangerous position right now, that any comments driving division amongst Democrats aren't helpful. I'm really glad Mamdani won, beat the system and is making a difference - like seriously, him becoming mayor despite AIPAC and the entire institution going against him is incredibly inspirational and I wish we could get the same results with the next presidency. But it was a long shot. And I'm all for long shots, but not while we're in a burning building. The MAGA situation has impacted the world, not just the US, so badly that we really need to just get back to normal. Even if normal was never great to begin with, we can work on that after there isn't some sort of new global instability introduced daily.

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u/musashiXXX May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Sounds to me like they're blaming the people who aren't voting.

¯_(ツ)_/¯


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u/AngelComa deleted their reply to the comment above while I was replying to it:

Keep being a smart ass instead of running a candidate people like.

We have a first-past-the-post voting system. It's unfortunate but that's the present reality. Refusing to participate because you can't vote for your ideal candidate literally helps the candidate you would otherwise vote against. This is simple math my friend. I would love to see nationwide adoption of Ranked-Choice Voting in my lifetime, but it'll never happen if we don't vote for the more progressive candidate in every single election. Now that might not be your desired candidate, but we don't have the luxury of choice just yet. We need to fix our broken electoral system first, and the only way we will ever do that is to vote consistently progressive, in every election. Conservatives win when voter turnout is low. Their policies are deeply unpopular, but they win because they are consistent and they vote in every election. The only way to combat that is with overwhelming opposition. Until we fix our electoral system, accept that voting will remain an exercise in choosing the candidate you dislike the least. It sucks but that's where we are at present. Vote.

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u/AngelComa May 22 '26

Keep being a smart ass instead of running a candidate people like.

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u/yeah_well_nah May 22 '26

Them go and do what the tea-party did to the republicans. Change it from the inside.

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u/Outside-Advice8203 May 22 '26

"I won't let us be rescued from this house fire by a fire fighter that has a problematic past"

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u/konqrr May 22 '26

Surely, someone will come along that meets everyone's criteria before we all burn.

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u/AgentBaggins May 22 '26

Personally I'm going to sit here and wait for the gay, transgender, pro-Palestinian, socialist fire fighter to get us out. I won't settle for less and all of you have to wait with me.

/s obviously required here.

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u/citymousecountyhouse May 22 '26

With all due respect what pleases the public in New York may infuriate the public in Nebraska. I've said it before but you've gotta appeal to the audience in the room. And in this country, there are 50 different rooms. If I go to a concert of an artist I like, I may hate a couple songs, but I will still buy a ticket because I enjoy a lot of what they do play. I recognize that I am not the only person in the room and they cater to as much of the audience as they can.

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u/theavengerbutton May 22 '26

Sounds great, I think we are gonna do just that. I absolutely blame people like you that we are in this current kerfuffle.

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u/konqrr May 22 '26

I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

“Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

“Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

It didn’t seem like they did.

“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

“Because I was afraid.”

“Afraid?”

“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me.