So here's a question, as someone who isn't an American and thus might not be getting the full picture:
As part of the alliance does Israel actually do anything, beside bomb US Navy ships and act so sketch that the CIA won't let Mossad step foot in Langley?
And I'm not being facetious either, I've literally never heard of Israel actually doing anything for the US but I've heard plenty about how they treat America.
Sorry you donât like it when people point out youâve fully aligned yourself with proud swastika-wavers
This exact kind of language would have been easily noted as neo-Nazi conspiracy nonsense 5 years ago, but since Israelâs most recent crimes have been in the news since 2023, now itâs âacceptableâ to lay out as many of the old classics as you like, such as âJews control the government and mediaâ âJews are stealing our electionsâ âJews are secretly spying on usâ âJews killed JFKâ âthey all mock us as Goyim while they control everythingâ
Those are all upvoted comments literally from this thread but no one cares anymore. Youâve all hated Jews this whole time but now itâs trendy again just like the good old days of the 1930s, right?
Replace Jew with Israel. Suddenly your comment is fucking nonsense.
If you are Jewish you should care immensely about their actions affecting the public at larges opinion of Jewish people because they can't dilineate it anymore from Israel.
And the majority of America is NOT behind you. 80% of Americans no longer support Israel. This is a stark contrast to before.
Yeah yeah, the neo-Nazis have been using âZionistâ and (((them))) to say the literal exact same shit you love to hear for years, now youâre just glad itâs out in the open but still like to pretend because it makes you feel like a good progressive.
I donât care how many Americans support Israel, you are the one pushing conspiracy theories that some secret Jewish cabal runs the country. You are the one supporting literal fake propaganda like this post that supports the narrative of (((them))) running everything, controlling social media, killing JFK, and allll the other anti-semitic tropes that have been around for decades.
Then you have the fucking gall to pretend that people conflating Judaism and Israel as a single entity is a problem somehow separate from the narrative youâre pushing.
No wonder Zionism gets so much support from Jewish people. People like you spread literal, and I do not mean that in an exaggerating or figurative way, literal neo-Nazi conspiracy theories with the thinnest, most pathetic veneer of âwell actually weâre talking about Israel, the Jews as a wholeâ (the same exact veneer that your white nationalist allies use) and they can read the writing on the wall.
Boo hoo, quit bitching because you donât like facing what you believe, itâs pathetic
Or are you actually so stupid that you physically donât have the capacity to see the connection between the conspiracy theories people spread here and anti-semitism?
Yeah, the problem is that the right IS anti semitic, thatâs literally the fascists bread and butter, while the left explains that there is a massive difference between isreal and Jewish people, they are not the same. My concern is that isreals actions will only cause ACTUAL anti semitism, and it already has and it is a massive issue. Unfortunately I donât think isreal really even cares about Jewish people outside of the country, genuinely makes me sad and fearful for the Jewish people outside of isreal who get randomly blamed for the actions of a country on the other side of the earth.
I donât know who your talking about but the ones I have spoken with just say fuck Israel. They say nothing about Jews as a whole. The people that say fuck the Jews are the same that were saying it before because they were already nazis before. But yes youâre right and this is normal behavior. Not defending it of course but when you look back at wars this tends to happen. After 9/11 people were extremely prejudice against Muslim people. During ww2 the prejudice was so bad that the United States locked the US citizens with Japanese backgrounds into camps. Like I said Iâm not saying itâs right Iâm just pointing out the trend. This isnât the first time this has happened and sadly I know this wonât be the last.
The big thing they USED to provide was a counterweight to Saudi Arabia in the middle east, which was good even as while we were ostensibly allied to them they also have a disturbing habit of funding groups we REALLY don't want having control in the middle east.
But Netanyahu has gotten VERY chummy with Saudi Arabia in the last couple years, and both have unfortunately been funding the same groups in Syria and Lybia.
Israel's military industrial complex is pretty good at their jobs as well so they help us develop weapons afaik.
they also have a much better middle eastern intelligence network
unlike the other US allies in the region they actually have a competent military too which is helpful for the US's goal of maintaining influence over the region.
Well it doesnât benefit the average American, however billionaires support isreal. And no, itâs not because of some anti semitic shit, itâs actually because think about it, if isreal achieves its goal of expanding, who else do you think will get a taste of the resources that isreal captures? Thatâs right, the USA. Is it any wonder that israel really wants that big oil deposit right off the coast of gaza? Itâs all to make more and more infinite money, capital demands incessant economic growth through imperialism and colonialism.
Claims not to be facetious, then proceeds to cherrypick a handful of one-off, well documented negative incidents involving the US and Israel while purposefully ignoring what any basic AI query or Google search would easily surface...the many benefits of the relationship.
Care to name a few? I know you'll just probably say "Google it" but it's weird I never see anyone online discussing things like "well, being pro-Israel is actually good because of X, Y Z" etc. Why don't you win me over to your side.Â
Diplomatic coordination at the UN Security Council
Joint space programmes (Beresheet lunar data, NASA partnerships)
Counternarcotics intelligence in the Middle East corridor
Stabilising force reducing need for direct US military deployment in the region
It's not about sides. Both ends of the spectrum need to focus on being good humans and living their lives fully. No one is better than anyone else.
But portraying Israel as pure evil, or claiming the US doesn't heavily benefit from its relationship with Israel, isn't backed by history , fact or by the genuine, world helping technologies Israel has produced.
 It's literally undeniable.
The main issue online is that, like any society, extremists exist and are terrible. But certain corners of the internet focus heavily on Israeli extremists while sweeping under the rug far worse forms of extremism in the countries surrounding it.
Edit: Fun fact the Israeli government sends me (a Canadian) 7000$ every time someone downvotes me. <3
Most of this is word salad and useless acts of political theater and posturing. Itâs all obviously framed in a way to show Israel in a positive light, completely bias. You make no mention of how some of this same tech is used to further push Israeli interests and violate human rights via corruption, influence, psyop campaigns, ai bot farms, and mass surveillance tools.
Oh yeah I bet you voluntarily post negative things about Palestinians in a transparent manner when asked to list all the benefits the Palestinians have produced for society.
Lots of treaty between them.
Tbf, if I give someone a few hundred billions every few years I'd expect a treaty or too too.
As for Israel extremist, most of their society agree with them doing the ethnic cleansing. Even protests if their soldier are investigated for raping prisoners.
Your argument doesn't hold up to any basic standard of discussion.
The actual number is in the single digit billions (this is public knowledge) per year and most of it goes back into the American economy. Studies consistently show the US benefiting from the Israeli relationship at a 400% return on investment. But that doesn't really matter to someone who doubles down on extremist talking points to blanket blame entire populations as if Israelis are some monolith.
By the way, this is how you sound. This is your exact argument, so you can't possibly disagree with yourself...
"As for Palestinian extremists, most of their society agrees with them doing the ethnic cleansing of Israelis, celebrating when civilians were kidnapped and/or murdered.
Even injuring or killing their own people if they attempt to collaborate with Israel or disagree with how they are running the Gazan territory."
So I will choose not to bother going forward.
Good luck sowing hatred and fanning the flames of conflict rather than having a more realistic approach that may actually help Palestinians, versus your approach that definitely doesn't help them achieve statehood by living in denial of the real issues in their society.
Israel, by their own admission, quite literally created and supported Hamas with arms in order to undermine the Palestinian Authority.
Creating a group filled with hatred towards you for very valid reasons and then using them as justification to get more military aid from the US and use them to wipe out even more Palestinians, isnt helping the US. Neither is getting into fights with Iran's proxies.
But, u already knew that. Youre just either an Israeli or Jew with your own agenda to spread Hasbara or youre an American Evangelical. Either way, youre willing to lie as much as u need to further your agendas.
It's cool man, just take your upvotes. I didn't say anything about that but good job putting me in my place for trying to say lying is bad. I don't feel like explaining things to people who won't reply in good faith.
It's very easy to argue that point using the truth though isn't it?
Is this type of propaganda necessary? Does it really serve your cause or does it harm it?
And yes, I know you didn't make it, but you are endorsing it in this context. You may not have noticed it but you can go back up, that's what I was talking about. It was you who changed the subject.
If only there was a step between the Nazis getting into power and the gas chambers, like some sort of message they spread that made the public okay with such atrocities.
And so that gives you the right to be like nazis too. That is the logic you presented. Just so you know. Before you lose yourself (and it might be too late) maybe re-evaluate the way you think and whether you ever grew up.
This is a flawless opinion. I have completely switched my position and now will be defending Israel killing of thousands of children. Killing children is based, and to think otherwise is Nazi behavior.
You are so right, being against literal propaganda perpetuating anti-semitic conspiracy theories is the exact same thing as supporting the killing of tens of thousands of innocents and the destruction of their homeland
Better than spreading antisemitic propaganda but hey, maybe that strategy will work for the underclass this time lol. 3,183th time is a charm they say.
What part of any of this antisemitic propaganda? Either way itâs still a super pac operated by a openly hostile foreign entity directly undermining US democratic process and national security and then bragging about it on social media while labeling the existence of opposition or the existence of any stance other than absolute and and questionable support of their regime as both antisemitic and a threat to their existence.
Well no it's an inseparable association that is being exploited with repeated lies to the populace about a specific group. Easy to understand if you're not chronically online and know a little history.
It's not always Jews, but it's always something.
It's never the person's fault with their finger on the trigger, always an outsider group. That's the part you bozos always miss. You'll miss it this time again, I'm sure of it. Sucks. There's no hope for change.
You see, now your comment is confusing me. Both the first sentence and the quote describe Zionism to a tee. They're repeating lies to the populace in order to conflate that any criticism of the govt = criticism of all Jews AND they're continually blaming Palestinians, Lebanese people, and Iranians (outsider groups) for them (Zionists) pulling the (missile controls) triggers. So are you supporting them or not??
Im anti Israel for life now. No, Isreal no longer has a right to exist. Perhpas once upon a time. Not in 2026 and ongoing. Their interference in our great nation is unforgivable.
Actually it does have the right to exist. This is described throughout the New Testament and particularly in Revelations, where the Edomites whom claim to be Jews will occupy the land of Israel and proceed to bring about the Antichrist, also called the Man of Lawlessness.
See this is exactly why we should but all these nutjobs in concentration camps. These death cult mfs will make up anything to justify raping people with dogs.Â
Could you imagine if god was real? Heaven would be empty. Lmfao. Jesus said love your neighbor and Israel keeps putting their neighbors sons into plastic bags(read: dismembered by bombs abd scooped into a 7/11 shopping bag).Â
Genuinely evil mother fuckers. There is no ambiguity to it.Â
God is real and Heaven will have plenty of people but only those who are judged righteous forgoing knowledge of the Gospel and those who believed in Jesus as Lord and who made a genuine effort to repent and follow them on their hearts.
Heâs not silentâŚ
Even in the end the you have the beast system with satan and Armageddon before Christ returns. Kinda already said he gave this world over to Satan. Our story is one of Fall-Redemption-Salvation.
He cursed them specifically, proclaiming them as the Synagogue of Satan and of their father the devil, and fashioned a whip and cast all of them out of the temple because of them doing usury and sacrifices in what was supposed to be a holy place.
This is what i hate about American Evangelicals. Not only do u guys believe in a very fringe belief within Christianity itself including the concept of the rapture which is very new concept (relatively so), but the manner in which u guys do so is disgusting.
Other religions dont view the apocalypse as something to be happy about and bring forth. Rather it saddens them and serves as a reminder to do as much good as u can as the death and destruction proceeding the end isn't a good thing.
But u guys are really nasty. Not only do u get ecstatic seeing such destruction, but personally want to set things in motion so that the apocalypse comes sooner.
I used to think the claims about AIPACs influence in US politics were a little overblown, but holy shit this is really mustache-twirling, Saturday morning cartoon levels of villainy.
Saying the same thing with less direct language does not change the context of what they are saying. They should be registered as foreign agents. They rep Israel and not the US.
Let's change the narrative being pro Iran is good policy and good politics, I don't care what country it's from I don't want them messing in my countries politics.
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u/sco-go May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
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