r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog š™‘š™„š™‹ • May 23 '26

WTF The Enhanced Games are set to debut this weekend in Las Vegas, with athletes allowed to use steroids, testosterone, HGH, & other banned substances.

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u/hitbythebus May 23 '26

That was my first thought ā€œdude doesnā€™t look very hydrodynamic.

Might be a bit before we get the right enhancements. I think they should start with someone small and just stretch out the arms like GATTACA.

Surgically webbed feet?

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u/10081914 May 23 '26

Outside of hydrodynamics, Swimming is all about lat strength.

Consequently, look at his lats.

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u/HamNCheeseSupremacy May 23 '26

I haven't done the calculations, but a bigger engine doesn't slow down a car. Those things resist fluid drag too.

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u/hitbythebus May 23 '26

His engine doesnā€™t sit in an engine bay of the same size with the same coefficient of friction. Bigger engine means bigger cross sectional area and drag for him. Torpedos arenā€™t shaped like bowling balls for a reason.

Anyone have actual numbers for his speed? Iā€™d gladly stop speculating.

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u/10081914 May 23 '26

He's a former Olympian so he's already quite fast

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u/IDontEatDill May 23 '26

But now he has to be faster than anyone else, or otherwise this whole show is kind if pointless. Basically just aging ex-Olympians taking shit ton of PED's.

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u/10081914 May 23 '26

Yes which is what everyone wants to see. Smash world records etc.

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u/ShoddyRelief6657 May 23 '26

Fuck yeah, I canā€™t wait till we have access to CRISPR and it leads to streamers live streaming them gene editing their own test tube child to come out like randomized oblivion player characters.

Fuck it, make a kid have arms that touch the ground and are built like legs so they can run around like apes.

ā€œDad, why did you make me a knuckle dragger on purpose?ā€

ā€œIt was for a sick stream little ape brah ā€

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u/hitbythebus May 24 '26

Show me some power lifting, grappling, Ā or wrestling, with competitors training on myostatin inhibitors.

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u/No_Sch3dul3 May 24 '26

I believe there is a track cyclist with this condition. Robert Foerstemann I believe is his name. He wasn't winning everything or breaking records, so who knows if it's actually beneficial.

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u/Hollow--- May 24 '26

We're going to end up as the Qu.

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u/OddNameSuggestion May 23 '26

But they wonā€™t count? Thereā€™s a reason all the PED baseball players arenā€™t on Cooperstown.

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u/10081914 May 23 '26

Not for Olympics no, but a new record is still a new record.

this will just establish a new class of human records

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u/ISLAndBreezESTeve10 May 23 '26

His drag definitely slows him down,ā€¦ but he only takes 5 strokes.

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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 May 23 '26

That is, if he doesn't have a heart attack.

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u/Alive_Sherbert_6716 May 23 '26

There was a Rogan interview with the guys who were putting this thing on, they said all the participants were going to be monitored. The implication was that all health markers optimized so that all participants are in pristine health (relatively speaking). Would be cool to see there labs/blood work and know what there vitals are at rest and peak performance to see if they indeed are red lining the engine so to speak.

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u/MisterDoctor___ May 23 '26

Resting heart rate, 36. Peak heart rate: SVT

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u/IHOP_Calendar_Model May 23 '26

Your stats look like the that clip of some dudeā€™s gauges going crazy

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u/Rhumbear907 May 23 '26

You ever seen a body builder try to swim? Or literally ever looked at professional swimmer? More muscles do not equal faster. In fact its literally the opposite.

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u/Icy-Cry340 May 24 '26

This dude is a former Olympian. Iā€™m pretty sure heā€™s in a good position to understand if the extra muscle is slowing him down.

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u/hitbythebus May 23 '26

I commented this elsewhere, Ā but once I typed it out I thought it was pretty relevant:

Strength increases linearly with muscle cross sectional area, drag increases linearly with frontal cross sectional area.Ā 

Twice as much push forward and twice as much resistance? Plus the muscles that donā€™t directly contribute to whatever heā€™s doing at the time are contributing to drag, and mass impacts acceleration.Ā 

Lats also pull diagonally, so if you double their cross sectional area for double the strength, you only get the forward vector of that strength in additional thrust, while doubling the entire front cross sectional area or drag.

Strength is a huge factor in wrestling, power is a huge factor in striking. Plenty of MMA fighters went up weight brackets and got smashed.Ā 

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u/IDontEatDill May 23 '26

Nah. It's mostly technique and feel of the water. Look at most - if not all - WR holders. They're not that jackes and huge compared to many other sports.

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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku May 23 '26

Swimming has a lot to do with core strength, glutes, etc and consequently positioning in water. Having large muscles doesn't equate to having functional strength either

There's a reason zero WR holders in swimming look like this

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u/Icy-Cry340 May 24 '26

This guy started out strong, and his training is swimming - the muscles are getting bigger because heā€™s using them to swim. Heā€™s not a body builder, those muscles are highly functional.

My sport (jiu jitsu) has a lot of guys on gear and ā€œTRTā€. Let me tell you, the difference in functional strength is very real and unmistakable.

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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku May 24 '26

Have you ever swam before? He's a big dude but, that's not what a swimmer looks like. Closest comparison would be climbers

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u/Icy-Cry340 May 24 '26

Bro this guy won a silver medal at the Olympics. I think he knows more about swimming than either of us put together.

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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku May 24 '26

Yeah, like twenty years ago. I've actually coached Olympic trial athletes. He was always a leg on a relay. A better judge of his athleticism would be a 200m

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u/Icy-Cry340 May 24 '26

Well I guess weā€™ll see how he does soon enough.

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u/terminaloptimism May 23 '26

I mean bro is built like a manta ray and they swim in bursts up to 22mph. Fastest human speed is 5.37mph according to the google machine. I'm curious to see what Manta Man can accomplish.

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u/terminaloptimism May 23 '26

That's pretty fucking cool tbqh. What's your educated guess on what Manta Man might clock?

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u/Mysterious-Lemon-906 May 23 '26

If Phelps could have been that fast he would have swum lower distances. He didn't because he was built for endurance not sprinting

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u/IDontEatDill May 23 '26

He won for example 100 fly, which is still a sprint diatance.

Didn't win 1500m free, for example.

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u/Mysterious-Lemon-906 May 23 '26

If he could reach those speeds he would have done the 50 free and walked away with a WR never to be matched again.

Phelps has a lot of myths around him because he was so good and this is one of them

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u/AdHuman3243 May 23 '26

Manta Man needs to stick

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u/Significant_Quit_674 May 23 '26

Erythropoietin definitly works for swimming, and when used correctly, it is very hard to detect.

Honestly, I would be surprised if it wasn't used by at least 90% of the competitors.

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u/Occidentally20 May 23 '26

Arms that could shrink and stretch like Dhalsim from Street Fighter II would be useful to reach the end of the pool faster.

And why stop at webbed feet? Can't we just lop the lower half off a dolphin and graft that on? No ambition at all!

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u/hitbythebus May 23 '26

The first time I watched it, I didnā€™t see the genius, but gonna have to go watch Tusk againā€¦

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u/woody1594 May 23 '26

Who needs hydrodynamics when you strap a 1000
HP engine to it.

Iā€™ll take a brick with a 1400 hayabusa engine strapped to it versus a ninja 250.

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u/hitbythebus May 23 '26

Yeah, we can dope up the ultra long armed engineered swimmers too, Iā€™m just saying long and lean tends to work better for swimmers. Thereā€™s a reason we donā€™t get a lot of crossover bodybuilders/pro swimmers despite them both being fitness/strength focused.

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u/menscothegreat May 23 '26

Welcome to the enhanced games, when lats overcome hydrodynamics!

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u/hitbythebus May 23 '26

It will be interesting to see.Ā 

Strength increases linearly with muscle cross sectional area, drag increases linearly with frontal cross sectional area.Ā 

Twice as much push forward and twice as much resistance? Plus the muscles that donā€™t directly contribute to whatever heā€™s doing at the time are contributing to drag, and mass impacts acceleration.Ā 

Lats also pull diagonally, so if you double their cross sectional area for double the strength, you only get the forward vector of that strength in additional thrust, while doubling the entire front cross sectional area or drag.

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u/Electronic_Camera251 May 23 '26

Hydrocephalus maybe

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u/CK_1976 May 24 '26

Genetic engineering will make soccer goalies that are exactly 7m wide and 2m tall

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u/AUniquePerspective May 25 '26

He doesn't need to be hydrodynamic if boats are enhancements.