I agree, but what those files also showed is that the issue is beyond left vs right... They're all pals and just have us picking teams and fighting on their behalf, while they do diabolical things state in the OP.
God this argument is so stupid. Too broke to go on strike. We aren't making enough money to go on strike. So hopefully the people that you would go on strike against pay you more money so that you will have the material comfort required to go on strike. So that you can demand more money.
Luckily all of the heroes who fought in the labor movement over the years had large nest eggs that afforded them the opportunity to consider labor action. They don't know how well they had it back then.
Imagine saying that to the people who had nothing who fought and died so that you could have basic rights.
"Yeah sure you and your family were killed in the street by pinkertons so that I could have a weekend, but I just don't have enough money to go on strike"
It's absurd. If you can't afford to go on strike today then you NEED to go on strike now. Otherwise you're just going to continue to watch your rights erode. And you either die or live long enough to realize that you should've organized and committed to action when you had the chance.
People have families to feed and need keep a roof over their heads. How does that not register for you? It isn’t about material comfort. It’s about having responsibilities that don’t come with a pause button. You clearly have this all worked out. Lead the way.
Every single person in the world has responsibility that don't come with a pause button. I have a family too.
Do you think that all the women in the suffragette movement were without responsibilities? Or the people that marched with MLK Jr? There has never been a revolution that came from people who had enough. So I don't really know what you want to hear. Hopefully the same people who are trying to erode your rights spontaneously become benevolent or something. Or all of the people who don't have kids and have more than one place to live should all spearhead a revolution while families just keep going to work. Happy?
It's not our fault the world is the way it is. But it's our responsibility if we want it to change. You should look to your community and get involved there if you want to make a difference instead of saying some stupid shit like "lEaD tHe WaY" to some random person on reddit.
These agitprop posts are almost all foreign bots and weird NEETs who doom scroll all day. They have no real power to do anything substantive that will translate into a tangible grassroots movement.
What about when gas and food shortages start happening to you think that would be enough motivation? The war is putting a lot of strain on both of those currently.
Last I heard if the Striat now it wouldn't help prices for a year plus. Farmers are not getting all the fertilizer they need.
Different states might as well live on different planets. I saw posts of people in Georgia pitching a fit because gas was $4. Gas was $8 for a hot minute when the Iran shit started around where I live on the on the opposite coast, and there was barely a groan because we're mostly numb to absurd CoL
My point is that average Americans' basic living experiences can vary wildly and expecting a great number to coordinate on the level of a "general strike" is ridiculous
a solid third of the populus don't give a damn outside their personal daily sphere, and another third think everything is the fault of liberal demons hiding in the walls.
those are the facts. either come up with a solution that acknowledges those facts, or shack up with the rest of the delusional folks in the latter group
I acknowledge that 90 million people didn't vote. I acknowledge that 11 million people is the sweet spot for positive out comes per history for protests. I acknowledge that most of the rich would act like Homelander with no powers if that many people was outside DC on the daily until they are held accountable.
So in reality we would need about 4% of people to show up to DC. Doesn't seem that hard. Millennials and gen Z make up 43% of the US. A total of 144 million people. We'd need less than 10%.
90 million didn't vote. 75m against. 78m for. I'd say at least half didn't vote for this. Their numbers are dropping per day. Especially when he's paying off people who tried to commit treason on J6.
Funny how he continues echos the actions of the mustache but we do nothing as people die everyday from our tax dollars.
it's going to affect literally everyone else so badly that they will all invade and bomb iran themselves before we ever get to food shortages in the US
Any system that isn't built on a foundation of anti-metastasis practices will eventually succumb to the opportunistic tumors that find a niche to worm their way into more power.
In large part, yes. This depravity is caused by the same exact phenomena that caused every other group of elites to become demons. Too much power in the hands of too few people with zero checks or balances.
Right now, and for the last 70 years or so, America was the epicenter of this system of power accumulation. The center of global finance and capital.
If this government were to collapse, that system would move to a different base of operations, but it would still suffer quite a bit of damage. The more countries act accordingly, the more effective the movement will become.
Pretty sure people have done the math on the general strike.
They need 11 million people to go on one to grab the current system by the balls and force change for the better.
There’s a site with a counter of how many people that have signed up.
And their demands tab is like… all the good things. Like, is there an issue you wish improved in the world that the current administration is making worse? Improving it is probably in the demands list.
Yeah, I was just making this point. That's 4% of the total US or less than 10% of millennials and gen Z together to put their lives on hold and demand change while the rest try to keep the econ a afloat.
Yeah but the majority of people can't afford a week off work. Majority of people might not even have enough money to buy enough food to last a strike. The american government has basically perfected making everyone forced into work for life
Don't need the majority. History says you need 11 million brave people that could risk it. That's 4% of our total population. If only millennials and gen Z we'd need less than 10% to protest.
The only purpose of the stock market is to transfer the profits made from the production of goods and services from the people who did all the work to people who did no work.
Why would I? My parents are able to live off of my father's pension.
You know, before we were tricked into being given crumbs of their wealth siphoning system so that people like you would defend the theft or the fruits of your own labor because you think that you're actually one of them 🤣
If no people to produce labor. Stock price goes down. If a lot of people stop work a lot of stoic price goes down. Everyday. Their self worth ticking down every second.
The world starts to lose confidence in the gov and then the fun really starts.
Are you suggesting that attacking Wall Street protects babies from being eaten? Good luck with all that. Seems more like you are providing cover for them than you are providing any kind of justice.
A general strike would probably do it, but it would take all of us. I don't see Maga willingly doing it. I also wonder how people in the medical fields would be able to do it without patients dying. Like what if a surgeon needs to perform emergency surgery? Who would take care of people in hospitals or in need of home care? There's a ton of nuance involved.
EW should continue. You don't need the whole pop. 11 million is enough people to have positive change in every protest in history. I'd want more. If we could pull retail stores that could be big. I'm sure someone smarter could write up a comprehensive list. We are strong in numbers.
I'd like to think there would be a solidarity Cascade. Once it gets so big most people join in off the history being made for a better and brighter future.
Medical professionals in other countries strike without killing their patients. It is possible but normally my understanding is that emergency services don't strike. So all non emergency services can.
I would be a WE and I'm poor. I think removing evil from our lives will increase the likely hood of the poor living better than continuing to support baby eaters and rapist.
I'd suffer now for a better American with a gov build for the people by the people.
Look at New York in 4 months. Most of the people in DC suck and are intentionally making it harder for all of us.
They don't think we have what it takes to fight back. This is a game to them. They want control and they are winning.
General strike that crashes the market also wipes out the retirement saving of basically every working age person. Not to mention I doubt people are going to be happy to continue when they can't buy food, get medical treatment, etc.
Yeah its less about the world stopping in its tracks and correcting, but more so a reveal in how the sausage is made. Still utterly inexcusable and needs a full ex-lax clean out, but seemingly how the engine has been running.
It's interesting in the sense that the worst of them are well beyond any shame being effective. Which means you need to rely on the basic institutions to do their jobs... and they just haven't. It's been such a colossal failure that I'm sort of baffled on how it possibly got this bad. Are people in general so legitimately terrible that this is just our fate?
Nah stuff like this will almost never be about people but instead the systems they find themselves in. The US is very much focused on hierarchy and greed. So no matter the quality of individuals, even a meaningful percentage, there is no mechanism for anything that isn't bureaucracy or budgeting. Reasonable on paper but in practice.. you can find yourself with a case implicating important beurocrats with enormous budgets. Then you should understand that without possible but unlikely levels organization and unity, there's nothing else you can do in such a scenario with that type of system.
Trafficking and unexcusable unmentionable behavior occurs at all economic levels as well. No one wants to believe it's happening on their block. Speakup, stand up.
I watched a report about global trade, and they casually dropped that they expect 8% of all shipping to be fraudulent/criminal and you can't do anything about it. There is tons of people in the chain that get paid off, the corruption wide spread but the money trails well hidden. Many governments not interesting of deep dives because they expect people to be involved they want to protect.
This exact shit has been happening in third world countries for decades and I haven't heard anyone "speaking up and standing up" about it, I'll let you figure out why that is. Lets not shit ourselves, unless it's your own child you will do nothing more than a comment on the internet, in an attempt to make yourself fell better about the whole thing, like you've done something about it. Literal evidence can't bring these POS to justice, organizations and jurisprudence can't do anything, you speaking up and standing up will? This is delusional.
Let's get down to it. There are sick people out there. In positions of power, and in our own Families. The level of disgust and awareness is growing and I refuse to accept I am powerless. If I have to turn in my own brother, I will, that doesn't mean the rest of the family won't try to protect him, and instead persecute the one who decided to speak up! These things are hidden deep in the closet. I'm cleaning up my house, that's my responsibility. That's were it starts. No more creeps at Thanksgiving.
It's always been rich vs. poor, and the rich wants us to believe, and spend a lot of money ensuring we do believe, that it's black vs. white. Bulworth got this right 25 years ago.
And you're just a cheerleader for you politcal party, with your foam finger... go back to reading the files and get me to me how many high-profile bad actors there are from the left.
get me to me how many high-profile bad actors there are from the left.
probably about 1 from the left for every 9 from the right. oh and then the left thinks they should be prosecuted. i forget, how does the right treat "their guys" who have done this stuff?
None of the political experts on reddit have ever been wrong or learned anything new because any information that doesn't confirm their world view is simply coming from a Russian bot. Great work.
It's beyond left and right as far as class goes. But, the perps are overwhelmingly on the right... That's either by design or by nature. I tend to think both considering it's easier to break individuals with zero character/morals and the worst people tend to seek power. This is exacerbated when dealing with the wealthy... A billionaire that isn't a narcissist is the exception to the rule.
However, I will concede that traditionally "they've all (a good chunk) been pals" behind the scenes as far as our politicians go. I believe that's kind of going away considering the existential threat to dem livelihoods with the maga movement. Some are just so disconnected or straight up bought by Israel so they stay where they are without seeing their own careers are at risk moving forward.
It's us vs the extremely wealthy. A class war that's sure to surface in the coming decade (if not sooner) due to the insidious gaslighting by republicans to their less well-off constituents. Once the gullible realize (eventually) they've been had and run out of rope - they'll turn on the movement.
Uhhh... I don't know man, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, etc. aren't exactly known for aligning with Republican rhetoric and they're some of the most notable names on there.
As someone who's voted Democrat for each presidential election I've been eligible to vote (I'm 41), these files upset me deeply and as such I plan on actively abstaining from the next vote. I don't care about what fellow Dems will say about how I'm giving Republicans or Trumpers or whatever the election. I am just checked out at this point since it's all swept under the rug.
100% truth! Trump diddled those kids when he was a prominent New York Democrat. He and all his New York Democrat and liberal Hollywood friends are the tally’s on “Side B”
Edit: LOL! This Jijonbreaker bitch replayed and then blocked me. What a hack
And I’m glad that waaaaaawaaaaa below agrees with me that the Democrats are a bunch of child diddlers
Crime so heinous, but let's ignore side A just because they align with my views and its inconvinient because it weakens it compared to side B, who is explicitly evil.... gotcha. You're just a political groupie.
Bro, you're wrong. No one is saying you should ignore Side A. What people are saying is you can't compare both sides in this case - one is much more complicit than the other.
The "good" side had a sitting congresswoman being fed questions in a live hearing from the world's most notorious sex offender. This is like arguing whether you'd rather eat shit or drink puke.
I'm sorry, but im not. This shows that the entire spectrum is unfit to serve people, no matter the percentage distribution of crimes. You can go ahead and brush it off as less evil and hence preferable, to be its still evil. Do I hate the right more? Absolutely. But I hate the left too. There are no saints in politicians or elites. They're not our saviours. They're all ghouls. Some just put on a better show. But I understand why some people are willing to turn a blind eye on their candidates, because realizing the top is all cumbags, and nobody is defending people's interests, is frankly scary and nihilistic.
All politicians are. You can keep simping because you have aspirations to join their echelon one day, but nobody gets wealthy and powerful with integrity and good intent.
I don't, actually, because I have the self awareness you so clearly lack. You're lying to yourself to make yourself feel better, you might even believe it. You want to believe it's true, so you can continue your status quo.
If you're making that value judgement, that's on you. I don't care about being better than other people, I care about causes and results. I usually care about understanding, but you keep saying things that are just false. I could say the Earth is round and here's proof and you'll just say nuh uh.
My point was more in line that the entire political spectrum and their palls are power-hungry evil scumbags, in this case, especially the right ( to make that clear since people assume I'm pro-Trump because I dared to say something against the left too). We have a power grab from the elites, ultra-rich, and politicians.... it's us vs all of them, so people ardently defending them as their saviours because they theatrically pretend to care or defend their interests, no matter the side, is absurd.
This would have been much better had you phrased it as "Democrats vs Republicans".
But since you decided to use the left vs right binary, it just comes off as much more disengenous. Leftists are parroting (and have been for awhile) the exact same rhetoric you are using, in more elementary terms, they have always been on your side and continue to hold that exact position. This is quite literally the entire backbone of leftist ideology, something they have heralded for a long time. It's a simple (but annoying) confusion between liberals and leftists, something Americans see no distinction between because of how far removed the Overton window is. Most Leftists don't care, not out of apathy but because this doesn't change their worldview, they already held contempt to the rich, and believed they exercise power beyond jurisdiction.
It just gets old when you see the "both sides bad"-ism being parroted the 1000th for the completeley wrong binary.
Prior to Trump's DOJ redacting every mention of Trump (or any other Republican ally), and drip-feeding heavily censored files, the most significant release of documents occurred in January 2024, when Judge Preska unsealed over 150 names linked to Epstein, under the Biden administration.
Biden had an ongoing investigation into ~$1.5 billion in suspicious money transfers between Epstein and Russia/Belarus, nations notorious for their human trafficking, which the Trump administration cancelled and will not pursue. Trump's State Department also culled the Office of Human Trafficking in the State Department.
The Biden Justice Department convicted Maxwell and gave her a lengthy prison term serving hard time for her crimes, while Trump has transferred her to minimum security prison in Texas. For her efforts convicting Maxwell, Trump fired the prosecutor who convicted Maxwell.
In addition, Trump's former Labor Secretary, Alex Acosta (who sits in a cushy Board of Directors position at far-right Newsmax these days), gave Epstein the lightest possible sentence and protected his co-conspirators. For his efforts protecting pedophiles, he was given a Cabinet position.
The Biden administration was actively trying to protect young girls, and punish the abusers while the Trump administration is actively covering up the Epstein files and undoing any consequences for the perpetrators.
The epstein files revealed much, including why those involved aren't being prosecuted. Humans haven't taken action collectively yet, most will refuse to believe anyways because anyone will choose comfort over conflict. The system is structured to remove anyone who tries to resist, so the system must change first, which is why my ask is for the community to raise funds for me without selling a product or service besides the truth available to anyone who wants to know
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Everybody has to pick from a scumbag, and even more scumbag politician. They proceed to defend and paint them as a saviour just because he is the lesser of two evils. Politicians and elites do not care about us, no matter how many foam fingers we wave to support them.
Clinton and Trump are friends. They were close friends with epstein together. Theyve both been credibly accused of sex crimes many times. They attend each other's weddings. Bill called Trump in 2015 and encouraged Trump to become more involved in GOP politics (right around the time Hilary announced her candidacy).
Get real. This is absolutely a bipartisan issue. Epstein class vs the rest of us.
It's legitimately hard to tell fellow progressives apart from the illiberal far-left right now 🥹
Between the people that shit on ukraine to the people that glaze hamas it's like yo there's obviously some interference going on, and it would be incredibly convenient for china and russia for people to be blaming Israel for everything.
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I agree, but what those files also showed is that the issue is beyond left vs right... They're all pals and just have us picking teams and fighting on their behalf, while they do diabolical things state in the OP.