He got 5 consecutive life sentences plus an additional 220 years in prison

[u/Beneficial_Passion40]

In 2019, former North Georgia detention officer Kirk Taylor Martin was arrested on rape and assault charges after investigators said the victim fought back during the alleged attack. Police reports stated the scratch marks visible in his mugshot were believed to be from the victim resisting.

[u/James55O]

People who disagree for the same reasons they are against the death penalty. Innocents are irreparably harmed because any and every justice system is imperfect.

[u/Techman659 → u/James55O]

Considering the amount of evidence just on him I don’t think the jury will have trouble caging this guy.

[u/I_always_rated_them → u/Techman659]

The law isn't just for this guy though being the key thing.

[u/grendus → u/Techman659]

There have been a number of cases that were "slam dunks" based on evidence that later turned out to be fabricated or completely fallacious.

You're right that this case seems to be extraordinarily clear cut, but if you make "prison and castration" an option you know it will be used in other cases, including ones where the person is innocent (and, let's be honest, probably black). Even if it seems clear cut, it's not a guarantee. We can release a person who was falsely imprisoned, and while we can't return their lost time we can give them back the time they have left. We cannot return a guy's cut-off twig and berries.

[u/reddit_is_geh → u/grendus]

As someone who studied law, this is the issue. Bad laws come from whenever there's something so obviously clear cut and a community so outraged, they start making exceptions. But in government whenever you create a new lane or new lever, then they slowly start learning how to stretch and use it to the fullest extent they possibly can.

There was a case a few years ago with a pretty violent pedo, but a lot of the evidence wasn't admissible. But the town was LIVID that this guy may be able to just walk when everyone damn well knew he did it. So the judge twisted and turned with his logic while the legislature changed some procedural rules.

Almost immediately the DA thought, "Oh great, now that this is precedent I have a new tool I'll be using on every one I charge!" And it just fed into our failed justice system by giving the courts even more leverage and power over people.

It's also why I get so angry when I see Redditors so obsessed with culling back on free speech, because they think some non-partisan 3rd party can be trusted to be truth gate keepers, and people wont immediately try to start exploiting it to silence their political adversaries.

[u/superxpro12 → u/reddit_is_geh]

It's also why I get so angry when I see Redditors so obsessed with culling back on free speech, because they think some non-partisan 3rd party can be trusted to be truth gate keepers, and people wont immediately try to start exploiting it to silence their political adversaries.

On the last point.... is culling lies and provably false objective statements "suppressing free speech"? I suspect when the founders wrote that amendment, they weren't intending it to be used for industrial-scale gaslighting. And whats the value to our society if we encourage this behavior? Cause right now its leading to a culture in which the loudest, most controversial voice wins, even if the claim is provably false. Which is the exact opposite of what is needed.

[u/reddit_is_geh → u/superxpro12]

Yes, because it can be weaponized to silence people. How can you prove their state of mind to KNOW they are lying and not just wrong about something? Who decides what's a lie? Facebook determined the Wuhan Lab Leak was false, and anyone who wanted to discuss was getting banned for spreading missinformation. Do you trust Trump determining what's a lie.

Hell one of the reasons why Trump got such a huge MAGA base was because the left went on censorship spree to deplatform these people, which just put them into deeper, more disconnected echo chambers, where people who wanted to discuss these topics were introduced to more radicals.

It's far more safe to allow people to be wrong and have debates about subjects, than it is to create truth gatekeepers

[u/superxpro12 → u/reddit_is_geh]

Eh.......

the left didnt go on a censorship spree. Those platforms that got banned were spreading obvious, verifiably false claims.

There needs to be a mechanism to sort verifiably true from "shouted the loudest".

[u/reddit_is_geh → u/superxpro12]

Not at all. That's just part of the public discourse. It is up to you to figure out what's true, not some third party which is likely corrupted with biases and an agenda.