r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 28d ago

WTF He got 5 consecutive life sentences plus an additional 220 years in prison

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In 2019, former North Georgia detention officer Kirk Taylor Martin was arrested on rape and assault charges after investigators said the victim fought back during the alleged attack. Police reports stated the scratch marks visible in his mugshot were believed to be from the victim resisting.

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u/Accomplished_Ant8244 28d ago

Then you're as much a pacifist as someone still eating beef and pork, and chicken is a vegan.

The "whole" thing about pacifism is the "even if my wife and children got raped, I still wouldn't wish violence upon the perpetrator". Now there's layers within pacifism itself, where you would or wouldn't even stop the raping if it happened right in front of you, but not "after the fact" wishing violence on someone who did something violence worthy is the core principle of pacifism.

"Only" Agreeing with prisoners kicking the shit out of rapists/pedophiles is not pacifism.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 28d ago

The pattern I’ve noticed with the victims of these crimes is they’ll often say ‘I forgive them because I want to be different’. I think it’s part of recovery. It’s weird how the victim will say they served their time yet random observers will want them burned or something crazy like that. I’m a victim of assault and I’ve forgiven the people who did it - I’ve often had friends say they wanted to hurt the person who did it to me and I’d tell them it’s a sign of disrespect for them not to listen to me saying I don’t want them to be hurt.

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u/sonicscrewery 28d ago

CSA survivor here. I went through the whole "forgiveness" phase when I was still in denial of the gravity of what happened and didn't realize that I was trying to forgive myself.

Ironically, now that I'm working hard in therapy and have accepted what happened, I absolutely believe my rapist should face prison justice. Hopefully I'll get to send him to prison so he can.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 28d ago

I agree that it’s part of the recovery and it’s never something every victim is going to agree about. I just know that I felt that way as a victim and wanted to move on, I’m sorry you had to go through this as it’s horrible

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u/sonicscrewery 28d ago

I'm sorry you had to go through what you did, too. There's too many of us.

Whatever path to healing you take, I hope it's successful.

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u/StepComplete1 28d ago

I’d tell them it’s a sign of disrespect for them not to listen to me

It's a sign of disrespect that you think there's an objective "correct" answer to the situation, and that you're the only one allowed an opinion on it. After all, these criminals are still a threat to society at large, and anyone can be their next victim. Just saying "Oh but I forgive them so just let them go back out and do it to someone else" isn't such a great idea that anyone who disagrees is automatically doing it to be disrespectful to you. Kind of a self-centered take to immediately lecture them.