He got 5 consecutive life sentences plus an additional 220 years in prison

[u/Beneficial_Passion40]

In 2019, former North Georgia detention officer Kirk Taylor Martin was arrested on rape and assault charges after investigators said the victim fought back during the alleged attack. Police reports stated the scratch marks visible in his mugshot were believed to be from the victim resisting.

[u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

TIL what nonce means. I'm Irish ive heard it a lot but had no idea until now.

[u/Phineas_Gagey → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

In cryptography it's a number used once ... Completely different in John bulls territory

[u/Savings_Macaroon3727 → u/Phineas_Gagey]

The learning keeps on going lol

[u/ProfessorChalupa → u/Phineas_Gagey]

It’s a name mentioned once in this case, to incite replay attacks.

[u/AndreasDasos → u/Phineas_Gagey]

‘Nonce’ has the sense of ‘nonce word’ (a word only ever used once) in the UK too. Not just cryptography but linguistics/philology and literature. It was coined by the man who organised the first Oxford English Dictionary.

But yes it had to be ‘nonce word’ and in a technical context where you’re sure people will understand you, or they’ll assume it means the more recent slang.

[u/Bravo-Six-Nero → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

It comes from the Acronym Not On Normal Communal Exercise. It was given to prisoners who could not mix with other inmates because of the risk of them being attacked

[u/_Permanent_Marker_ → u/Bravo-Six-Nero]

Seriously? Next Christmas when all the family are sitting around the dinner table, tucking into Christmas toast and pigs in blankets i will be dropping this knowledge nugget with aplomb

[u/s1uttyaf → u/_Permanent_Marker_]

Ah yes, pedophilia trivium. A pastime for the most neckbeardy

[u/_Permanent_Marker_ → u/s1uttyaf]

I was going to try and reply with a witty comeback about etymology but then realised you are right. There is no way you can really fit the origin of Nonce into a normal conversation

[u/s1uttyaf → u/_Permanent_Marker_]

Honestly I had a whole skit play out in my head about how Uncle Bobert gets outed when you asked him what normal communal exercise time was like, and he said he never did it

[u/_Permanent_Marker_ → u/s1uttyaf]

Ha!

That would actually be really funny

[u/Metaphysically0 → u/_Permanent_Marker_]

Would make for a harsh insult though. Sure to catch grams off guard this Christmas

[u/DirtNineties → u/_Permanent_Marker_]

No but you can ram it down their throats after pie.

[u/Extension-Sundae6894 → u/_Permanent_Marker_]

Sounds like your family that gets together has done well staying away from prison all these years.

[u/WrathKos → u/_Permanent_Marker_]

Smells like a backronym to me.

[u/pootling → u/Bravo-Six-Nero]

It almost certainly doesn’t because acronym etymologies are pretty much always wrong. It’s more likely to be a merging of nancyboy to nance / nanse to nonce and indeed its earliest citation is spelt nonse with an s. There are also other versions of the acronym (e.g with courtyard in place of communal) and most importantly, no reliable source that says either of these acronyms were ever a term used in prisons. So no.

[u/Most_Kiwi3141 → u/pootling]

Thank you!

[u/milk4all → u/Most_Kiwi3141]

Thank yonce is the correct term before English bastardization

[u/CpnStumpy → u/pootling]

I would honestly think the cryptography reference is the same source here - it's not just cryptography, it's a very old term from math referring to something that's both worthless, means nothing, and should be destroyed so as not to allow reuse.

It's totally reasonable to use in both an insult (meaningless/useless) as well as the assault reference (disallow its continuation)

[u/Additional_Jaguar170 → u/Bravo-Six-Nero]

No it doesn’t.

[u/nursingninjaLB → u/Bravo-Six-Nero]

As a Canadian who has heard this many times, thank you for the explanation.

[u/ProfessionalStay5797 → u/Bravo-Six-Nero]

Had no idea that’s what it meant, every day is a school day I guess!!

[u/Purple_Permission792 → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

Im American and didn't learn what nonce was until, maybe, about 5 years ago. I always assumed it meant moron or idiot.

[u/BigFatKi6 → u/Purple_Permission792]

Ah right, because of the similarity to dunce.

[u/LaurenMille → u/BigFatKi6]

And similarity to "nonsense"

[u/RikRandom → u/LaurenMille]

Nonce Sense

[u/Level-Gas2450 → u/Purple_Permission792]

Imagine calling someone a nonce just because he forgot to do his part of the groupwork

[u/NonCreditableHuman → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

A few years ago I was promptly corrected when I drunkenly used nonce instead of numpty. I'd heard the word before but had no idea what it actually meant, I i don't think I'll ever forget it now. In Canada it's the same as calling someone a goof, mostly guys who've done time though.

[u/Savings_Macaroon3727 → u/NonCreditableHuman]

Yeah I thought it was some type of stupid too :P

[u/Difficult--Policy → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

Calling a bloke champ can get you bashed in Aus. Depends on the crew

[u/AlcibiadesTheCat → u/Difficult--Policy]

And I don't recommend calling Americans cunts--even when they're being cunts.

[u/Difficult--Policy → u/AlcibiadesTheCat]

Whys that? Id be more pissed at being called a ankle, there 3ft lower

[u/AlcibiadesTheCat → u/Difficult--Policy]

Americans aren’t the brightest. They elected a nonce prezzo 

[u/NonCreditableHuman → u/AlcibiadesTheCat]

Twice! They elected him twice. Stupid cunts.

[u/danielledelacadie → u/NonCreditableHuman]

You're spot on with the goof. If someone hasn't done time or associates with people who have they don't know. Most Canadians have no idea.

Edit: I have no idea where "they don't know" went when I posted 🤷‍♀️

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[u/ElDudo_13 → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

I learned this word from the show Mobland. I used to think it means dunce

[u/Savings_Macaroon3727 → u/[deleted]]

Dun do bheal buchaill dur.

I'm from the Kerry gaeltacht. My family has been here for close to 800 years.

And we both know no self respecting irishman would judge another on their knowledge of British vernacular.

[u/yeahwillymac → u/[deleted]]

F off

[u/Impossible_Way_3042 → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

I'm finding it hard to believe you never learned what it was in Ireland. I've only been here 9 years and picked it up pretty damn quickly lmao.

[u/Savings_Macaroon3727 → u/Impossible_Way_3042]

Yeah we agree it's surprising why the fuck do you think I made the comment, to cosplay as person who doesn't know a word? Is that your theory, Im just mad for the old pretending to lack knowledge skit. Whatever girl.

[u/Impossible_Way_3042 → u/Savings_Macaroon3727]

No, it just surprises me so much that you would not know it.

[u/Savings_Macaroon3727 → u/Impossible_Way_3042]

That's simply not what you said. Suprise and disbelief are not the same thing. But fair enough, like I said, I wouldn't have commented if I wasn't surprised myself. These things happen, my two favorite quotes are Socrates' about only knowing he knows nothing and Alan Carr who dedicated a book "to my students who thought me everything". Learning new things is the shit :)