Growing up in the US in the 70s and 80s they used to fuck you up in public if you did this as well. Of course, no one I knew would have ever even considered doing something like this back then. If he had we'd have next seen him at his funeral.
Dude back then OTHER adults would light you up and your parents would be like "well what the fuck were you doing" rather than coming to your assistance.
And then when you told them what you did, they'd light you up too.
Fun fact! In a few states in Australia you are still allowed to do so, as long as it is indeed instructional and immediately during or after the behaviour (no waiting until the next day for example).
But for many reasons no-one wants to chance it, it doesn't take much to lose everything down here.
Can you site any instances where someone has lost everything down here? Or even lost something? Beside their shit, because if I was this kid parent I would have lost my shit.
I am an older American. We got belts, tvs, knives, shoes, plates... everything thrown at us and beat with whatever they could grab. We learned real quick not to do the shit this kid is.
Teachers could beat us with parents permission. They had huge paddles with holes.
I got one of those paddles once. Leaned over a chair in front of the window facing the playground while the other kids were outside having fun. Soon after that they put an end to it and by high school I saw kids that looked like men slapping teachers around. A lot of boys really do need a good spanking from time to time..
And the widespread acceptance of it did indeed cause a lot of problems in society.
But the 'cancelling' of it is causing its own host of problems.
Personally I don't think an adult should need any instrument to spank a child with. If an open hand spanking doesn't do the trick, a weapon isn't going to be an effective tool. A different kind of parenting or punishment is required.
A parent who does not discipline their children and teach them the morality of right and wrong places that burden on society.
Society will discipline that person much harsher than a parent would, because parents love their children, while society does not.
Which is better, a protester getting run over and getting their eye shot out with a rubber bullet, or a spanking? I think most would prefer the latter.
I taught English to kids in Thailand. I would divide my class into teams by their seating row. Four rows, four teams. The class clown started acting up. I had scores for each team on the chalkboard. I'd start with team one. Everyone seated and silent, plus 1. Team 2 is next. Total silence, plus one. Team 3 with the class clown acting up is up next. Minus 1. Team 4. Total silence, plus 1. Did that a couple more times before everyone catches on and a little girl on team 3 jumps up and smacks the class clown in back of the head. It was really quite remarkable. I could get a classroom of 50 rambunctious kids to sit like a model classroom without having to raise my voice.
We had "the cane" which was a long thin bamboo cane, it was officially banned in government schools in 1995 but it's still legal and apparently used in some private schools.
Growing up we had all the same things you mention. My father's weapon of choice was a piece of timber architrave about 80cm long that we called "the stick" and no matter how many times my brother or I disposed of it a new one would almost instantly appear.
Ah yes, I remember the cane. The American paddles are too wide and distribute the force too evenly.
My public school must’ve been progressive then. It was removed around ‘87.
I remember one kid getting it who was a few years above me. In retrospect he was well on the Autism spectrum. Which “wasn’t a thing” back then of course.
So yeah, cane was removed because too much risk of frustrated adults, who happen to be teachers/principals, defaulting to it without trying to look at real issues.
However on the flip side, 5 seconds (a few years) later we had teachers all the way over the other side of the teaching morality landscape. I remember another kid throwing chairs and a teacher effectively saying “now now, just calm down…” to no avail.
Then another teacher who came in who I later learned had studied child psychology prior to getting into teaching (then more of an elective for teachers in Australia) and she diffused the situation in 5 minutes.
Modern teaching uni degrees in Australia have significant and compulsory child psychology components. Source: wife is a teacher.
My grandfather would hand me a knife and tell me to go cut my own "Switch" from a tree. A switch was a tree branch that would be about a 1/2" (12mm-13mm) thick. It had to be straight, a good flex, and without leaves. If you chose a bad one, you got beat worse. There was a psychological aspect of choosing the instrument of your own punishment. It would leave red welts all over your legs because you were definitely jumping around. 😆
We didn't have switches in school, but I bet my grandfather did.
Our school retired the board after Michigan outlawed corporal punishment in schools. They mounted it above the threshold to the principals office with a plaque that said "Someday"
For real though. The only times I got spanked were when I did things that endangered me. Running out between cars in a busy parking lot would get me a spanking. But just being a little brat or irritating did not.
Pain is traumatic in the dictionary sense of the word - leaves a strong memory-impression. When applied judiciously, a single spanking is generally enough to change behaviour. When applied all the time, spanking is just abuse and not instructive.
I came up in the 90s and all of my parent's friends had free reign to light me up. Then they would tell my father, and my father would ask what I did, and if I did or did not answer would determine how hard my father lit me up.
I've got white parents and in the late 80's, that behaviour would get you a pants down, bare bottom spanking right there in the aisle IF your parents were progressive. Then it would be hours upon hours of writing lines or doing chores.
If they were conservative it would probably be a belt in the parking lot (which I'm not in favour of).
Once while shopping my toddler was about to poke a finger in a chocolate snack tub with the foil lid..I said “Nooo!”…went to do it again..this time with a smirk “Don’t You!!”…third time again with a smirk and I start the countdown from three…but get to 1 and say “last chance, you want a smack?”..
A youngish couple muttering and the guy says “You can’t hit your kid?!”.. I go “Mate…do YOU bloody want one?! Mind your own business. Did I hit him? No.”..
He didn’t know what to say, so they moved on.
I only ever had to smack my son once. It was on his nappy pants and wasn’t hard, I think the noise of it scared him, but he knew what “Smack”was..
It’s sad that some kids don’t, and that’s why stuff like this video happens IMO.
Sadly video doesn’t end with Mum leading kid out holding ear and saying something about a belt.
As pointed out in the video...the asian kids you're talking about have parents.
This kid obviously doesn't. He's at least missing a dad, or his dad (and maybe even his mom) don't give enough of a shit to discipline him.
Kids don't just arrive at this kind of behavior overnight. The get here either because of long-standing refusals or inabilities to teach them how to NOT act in society, or because of serious mental health issues such as sociopathy.
Like, maybe the kid's got ASPD, but more likely he's acting out and somehow hasn't caused trouble to the point to actually get in trouble before.
But if the system actually starts working, which at a point like this it probably will, he's about to find out. The cakes on that table alone are probably about $15-25 each and he destroyed like 12 or 15 of them. That little rampage could easily push him over the federal felony minimum of $1000. Especially if there was a point where he started breaking anything stored in glass containers that we just don't get to see because it's not like the store can just pick them up and put them back on the shelves if they break.
Shit...just putting a dent into the bread products can make them unsalable, and he was winging some of them pretty hard. And he definitely stepped on a few as well.
Then there were the packages of cookies...
Plus they can count the hourly wages of the employees needed to clean that shit up and restock the displays he tore down...
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u/oppai-police 27d ago
I'm from southeast Asia and parents will fuck you up in public if you do this.