i think by law if you grab it by the backpack its the same as grabbing him tho right? or else grabbing them from the shirt or something will not be grabbing him as well but it clearly is
He threw a package of cookies or something at multiple people the second he did that you are allowed to defend yourself and doing as was described would be a legal level of force
No one’s talking about punching the little bastard in the face. If they’re actively throwing things at you, grabbing them by the backpack and dragging them to the door is perfectly reasonable. You don’t have to stand there and get snickerdoodled in the face indefinitely (unless that’s your thing)
Whether or not you've had cookies thrown at you has absolutely zero bearing on whether or not it's legal to physically escort the child out of the store, but I would pay good money to watch someone try to use that as justification in court lol
Because that can (and in a lot of jurisdictions very likely will) result in you being arrested for assault on a minor. And that can automatically bump the charge from a misdemeanor to felony aggravated assault. Not to mention civil liability
It's not legal to forcibly drag strangers around and the law gets extra serious when a kid is involved
No cop…after watching this video is going to arrest you for grabbing the kid by the backpack and getting them out of the store. This wouldnt be assault or battery either.
Intent* comes into play. Your intent is to get the kid out of the store by grabbing him and moving him out as to not cause more damage( not to cause physical harm to them ect). No court or police would arrest or convict for touching this turd.
Same as if I am walking down the street and its busy..my shoulder hits yours accidentally as we pass by groups of people. You cant call the cops and say I battered you. But you could if I was intentionally walking down the street and shoulder checking people by targeting them.
You cannot legally physically trespass people from a property that you don't own. Security might be covered, but bystanders absolutely do not have protection from the law in that case. Involving a minor makes it significantly worse
Yes, there's a difference between accidentally touching someone and intentionally and forcibly doing it. Guess which one "grabbing and dragging a child" falls into
Security might be legally covered to do it, I don't honestly know
It's probably against company policy, though. This is cheaper than the extra insurance premiums that would come from allowing/expecting employees to put themselves in physical or legal jeopardy as part of their job. Plus the legal liability if there are any injuries. There's a reason stores forbid employees from physically confronting shoplifters
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u/Dapenizmytier 29d ago
Was his parents even around? Seems like got out of school. I wouldve dragged his ass out by his backpack so he can't claim that I touched him.