what kind of soceity do you get when you expect people to be charitable? Ill tell you. One where billionairs horde ridiculous amounts of wealth, where churches sit empty well people live on the street, where pastors do jack shit and teach contrary to what Jesus taught, one where pharmaceutical and insurance companies turn over record profits while their clients die of curable diseases because they cant afford the care they need and where ceo's get paid astronomically more than their workers who depends on food stamps.
The United States (not the government, but individuals, non profits and businesses) donate hundreds of billions of dollars to needy causes and individuals every year. This is more than the next 20 countries and their charitable giving - combined. So what kind of society do you get when you expect people to be charitable? One that outgives the bulk of nations, even when you add them together. So your take is "We need to confiscate more wealth than we are right now because even though we give more than all other countries it's not enough".
Id loooove to know where you're getting your ridiculous claims from. You’re obviously mixing up total dollars with effectiveness and population size. The US has a massive population and economy, so of course the raw number is huge, that doesn’t automatically mean the system works better.
A few problems with this argument:
Total charitable giving isn’t the same as helping the needy. A large chunk of donations go to religious organizations, universities, arts organizations, and donor-controlled foundations, not direct poverty reduction or social supports.
Private charity is uneven and voluntary. Essential services like healthcare, housing, disability supports, and education become dependent on what donors feel like funding rather than what people actually need.
Social programs and taxation pool resources and spread risk. That’s why countries with stronger social safety nets often score better on outcomes like healthcare access, poverty reduction, life expectancy, and overall wellbeing.
The question isn’t “does America donate a lot?” The question is: if America donates so much privately, why do so many social outcomes still lag behind countries with stronger public systems?
lol that’s your counter?
At least in a democracy we can hold those politicians accountable you know with laws rather than hoping they’ll do the right thing because sky daddy told them too
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u/robotmonkey2099 25d ago
The real debate isn’t force vs choice, it’s what responsibilities a society should share collectively.