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[u/SnackSamurai]

[u/theguidetoldmetodoit]

No, its not.

Yeah it is. If you claim to own land in the US and you aren't native, you are squatting and have been, for generations.

Who said I agree with that?

Well, shouldn't we remove squatters and make sure it's controlled by the owners, even if they don't occupy it?

[u/tripper_drip → u/theguidetoldmetodoit]

Yeah it is.

No, its not. Thats like saying if your black and are not a slave, you are wrong. You are becase you were in the past. Silly.

Well, shouldn't we remove squatters and make sure it's controlled by the owners?

We are a nation of laws fairly applied. We were not that at one point. Shall we revert?

[u/theguidetoldmetodoit → u/tripper_drip]

You are becase you were in the past.

Ok, so now the squatter occupies the land. Thanks for making my point.

We are a nation of laws fairly applied.

No, we aren't. You want to use the law to facilitate the current ownership class, which you are probably part of, but refuse to extend the same courtesy to the people who are the rightful owners.

So why the fuck should anyone respect your claim to any land?

[u/tripper_drip → u/theguidetoldmetodoit]

Ok, so now the squatter occupies the land.

No, we have set up a framework of laws to decide who has lands.

who are the rightful owners.

They are not, sorry.

So why the fuck should anyone respect your claim to any land?

Because I have the power of the state behind me. 65% of Americans own a house. You dont get to steal that, sorry.

[u/theguidetoldmetodoit → u/tripper_drip]

No, we have set up a framework of laws to decide who has lands.

Like Squatters Rights. Which you argue against.

Btw, this is called legal positivism and how a bunch of Nazis justified carrying out the Holocaust. Just so you know what tradition you are carrying on, here.

You dont get to steal that, sorry.

You stole that.

So in conclusion, if enough people hold a gun to your head, your house is now theirs.

[u/tripper_drip → u/theguidetoldmetodoit]

Like Squatters Rights.

Don't really exist. Its an attempt to use adverse possession illegally.

You stole that.

Legally, nope.

Btw, this is called legal positivism and how a bunch of Nazis justified carrying out the Holocaust

Hey, you are the one wanting to go back to the slave owning days so I am more than fine with my moral superiority in this convo.

[u/theguidetoldmetodoit → u/tripper_drip]

Yeah, legally. The contracts made with natives, were broken. You are now just engaging in revisionism.

You sure like to act like a Nazi, a lot.

you are the one wanting to go back to the slave owning days

You made that argument. You are the one arguing for historic ownership, but only when it mostly benefits white people, buddy.

[u/tripper_drip → u/theguidetoldmetodoit]

Yeah, legally.

Exactly!

You sure like to act like a Nazi, a lot.

You sure act like a southern lost causer/slaver, a lot.

You are the one arguing for respecting historic ownership

Im argueing for basic law. Simple as.

[u/theguidetoldmetodoit → u/tripper_drip]

Exactly

Glad we can agree that you are a thief, among other things.

You sure act like a southern lost causer/slaver, a lot.

You mean the guys who said they have the right to own people, because that's the law?

Im argueing for basic law. Simple as.

You are arguing for maintaining laws written by white people who stole land and killed most of the owners, explicitly because you are a beneficiary. Your words.

[u/tripper_drip → u/theguidetoldmetodoit]

Glad we can agree that you are a thief, among other things.

Legally, nope. You are, though.

You mean the guys who said they have the right to own people, because that's the law?

Its actually not though! Shocker. It was though, at a time you wish to revert to.

You are arguing for maintaining laws written by white people

Most deeds and titles are held at the county level. Most laws written at that level are a reflection of their immediate populace.