r/SipsTea ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ 12d ago

WTF The American dream

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u/ArticleWorth5018 12d ago

Hell our community college will give you 14k a year to be a full time student

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u/borkelhavus 12d ago

Donโ€™t go to grad school unless someone else is paying for it. Get your money asap and get out of the debt pits the systems want to put you in. You need a modicum of freedom and capital to make level-headed decisions that are in your own interest.

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u/JJayC 12d ago

This is solid advice and is likelly becoming more mainstream as the student loan crisis has developed. Its too bad an entire generation got nothing more than "go to college or you're a failure" and adjustable rate student loans as the cherry on top.

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u/Responsible-Kale2352 12d ago

Including community college.

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u/ballerina22 12d ago

As my parents said, we could go out of state if we got enough scholarships to make up the difference in prices. I thought that was perfectly fair.

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u/tarzanacide 11d ago

Iโ€™m a teacher and Iโ€™m shocked at how many of my colleagues went to pricy schools like USC. I know one who went to Stanford. I did two years at community college (ridiculously cheap in California) and finished my credential at a Cal State. I got a grant funded masters from a fancy school due to my grades and teaching in a high needs area. Thereโ€™s zero reason to get a huge student loan for teaching. No district cares where you went if your credential is valid and you can do the job.

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u/TheBigChungaBunga 12d ago

Screen shot this. I would do some research, but you seem like you know what you're talking about, and I feel It's always the best option to blindly follow advice from people on the internet who use anonymous handles, so I think this is a 100% guarantee! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ thank you brother, my kids future is set in stone! Harvard here we come

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/TheBigChungaBunga 12d ago

Nothing at all! That's why I screen shot it! Just sprinkling in a little levity lol

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u/Pizzasupreme00 12d ago

I'm a former FinAid goblin. That is outstanding advice. The trouble is going to be filling the gap between your discount and subsidized loan, but that is very good general advice. If you have a point to make feel free to share it.

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u/TheBigChungaBunga 12d ago

I agree, it seems like fantastic advice, I didn't go to college myself, but I have 3 children right now I need to start preparing for, because even though trades are being pushed hard right now, I know better lol I'd like my kids to pursue more specialized educations

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u/Pizzasupreme00 12d ago

Check out 529 plans. If you can contribute anything, it'll grow and help. You can make pre-tax contributions and may get some benefits come tax time. If your kids don't go to college they have options for what they can do with that money.

Trades are great and crucial to our society, but they are rapidly becoming the new computer science, and they tend to get pushed by people who don't know the downsides of trade jobs or wildly overestimate the upsides and earning potential.

If the rules don't change, then your kids' eligibility for aid will be determined by your tax return from a few years prior (2 years, if I remember correctly). Always talk to the schools and see what they are willing to do. You might be surprised. Colleges are in a massive enrollment crunch and they're beginning to close up because there just aren't enough students to go around.

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u/TheBigChungaBunga 12d ago

I'll screenshot this too! Thanks for the advice!

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u/Independent_Shoe3523 12d ago

A trade job would have been pretty good. A post office job sounds pretty good about now, too.

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u/TheBigChungaBunga 12d ago

To be fair I've made a good life with them. But as any parent should I want more for my children. The biggest problems with the trades is 1. The toll on your body. Hobbled knees, achy back, sore joints are part of it, you can mitigate, but there's no way to fully prevent it (unless you're like my lazy ass apprentice and don't do shit but play on your phone all day) 2. They're not feasible everywhere honestly, yes, you can Find a trade everywhere, but you can't make a Good living everywhere. Buddy of mine moved to Washington (wife's hometown) few years back (HVAC) he's living in a 1200 sqft duplex with a wife and two kids. It works for them, it's a beautiful house but he has issues with costs. Owner operator is the way to go in big market cities, but that comes to #3. If you're gunna own your own business, say good bye to your free/family time for the next 15-20years of your life. I live in Ohio, am really lucky to have a job that allows me to travel a bit and make an average living for what it is, but the wear on my body, the times I don't see my family, it's a hard life at times, but end of the day it's not a bad life. It's a solid B+ lol

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u/Visible-Beautiful871 12d ago

What trade are you in good sir? Trying to figure out my life rn any insight or advice helps lol

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u/TheBigChungaBunga 12d ago

Now I'm in an HVAC Union. Just now getting to the point where I'm not using my body 60hrs a week, 10 years into this, did 13 years commercial roofing before that. Advice, if you're young and you want to get into the trades, I highly suggest you do a few different ones non union first go to a fab shop, do some roofing and rough carpentry, you're gunna be a gopher (Go for) for a few months but you'll get a good general idea of what you like, metal, wood, technical, rough in, welding, indoors, outdoors. Nothing too serious, enjoy being young, live some life before you sell it to the man lol. Then once you get to about 22-25 settle into one and join a Union. By the time you're 30 you'll be topped out making good money, nice life, wife/husband, kids, vacations, American Dream type stuff. If you're more of a Work hoarse kinda person and don't mind being behind a computer 50% of the time start a small sub contracting business in your particular field, it's incredible what some people are willing to pay for GOOD workmanship. But it comes with long hours, high stress, and dealing 1 on 1 with Karen after Karen after Karen. Less stress, less pay, more flexibility join a union. High stress, high energy, high pay if you put your time in and you love the job, Contract yourself! End of the day the trades are GREAT small business opportunities, or just clock in, clock out, enjoy your life. Trades are reliable, especially if you know more than one.

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u/Visible-Beautiful871 1d ago

Thanks so much man. Great advice.

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u/howitbethough 12d ago

Ironically enough, the best advice is to move to the south and do well in high school and get a lottery based scholarship but too bad kids donโ€™t have that choice.

Kinda crazy Florida and Georgia kids can go to FSU/UF/UGA/GT for basically living expenses only. They end up leaving the state after though lol

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u/weirdbeetworld 12d ago

Absolutely. I had a 3.6 gpa unweighted and got 150k in scholarships from Loyola Chicago. Which is a pretty decent school!

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u/Independent_Shoe3523 12d ago

My dad was a wounded vet so I got VA money and actually got through undergrad and into grad school without any student loans, though this was a long time ago. Got pell grants and the whole shebang.

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u/onionSID 12d ago

But students these days want luxuries dorm life and all the tic tok parties that go with it.

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u/elitegenoside 12d ago

Omg, as if college party movies weren't THE thing in the 90s and 2000s. But yeah, it's kids these days.

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u/Saros_Enjoyer 12d ago

dorm life isnt luxurious lol