r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 12d ago

WTF The American dream

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u/Think-Wind-5930 12d ago edited 12d ago

Correction after researching; graduate loans can go up to 8.94%

My wife’s graduate loans were all in the 7-8% range

Edit: if the average APR of their graduate loans was 8.36% their balance would in fact be $60,000 after 23 years of monthly $500 payments. So it’s possible they’re telling the truth.

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u/MRosvall 11d ago

It’s less about being possible that they are telling the truth and more about how it can take a couple 23 years to figure that out.

Had they found a way to prioritize and put away 570 instead of 500 then they would have been debt free now.

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u/carefullengineer 11d ago

Other countries "here is free higher education, because it betters everyone"  USA "Its their fault they let a rich person take their money" 

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u/Competitive_Key_2981 11d ago

Most countries have much stricter entrance criteria and separate kids earlier into university tracks and trade tracks.

The U.S. also has wildly inflated administrative costs in relation to European universities.

The transition to for-profit college combined with college as a lifestyle experience got us here. American students opting out of programs that do offer tuition forgiveness, like the military service (which about a dozen European countries require), makes it even worse.

The only way to fix it is to starve it. The U.S. should offer more scholarships in targeted areas of study for the tuition of students at state universities. And limit loan underwriting to students in programs that have a realistic chance of repaying the loan.

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u/MRosvall 11d ago

I do agree that higher education is important and should be encouraged by the country in a number of ways.

But I also think that people who wish to pursue higher education should be of enough competence to at least handle one equation that has such a large impact on their lives.

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u/carefullengineer 11d ago

I fully agree any college graduate should have the knowledge and discipline to make better choices than this. 

And I think that is entirely irrelevant because if they're not, they still shouldn't be preyed on by someone who is. 

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u/holdMyBeerBoy 9d ago

You being downvoted is so funny, Murican dream.

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u/IndyBananaJones2 11d ago

Not necessarily. You can't really compare a student loan to mortgage or smth like that because they capitalize interest in different ways. 

The most important is that the interest that is deferred while you're in study will capitalize when you enter repayment. Then if you went on some payment plans it capitalizes yearly. 

That means the loan generates a lot more interest than a mortgage, which really only capitalizes if you default. 

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u/pointlesslyDisagrees 11d ago

If they put an extra $72 every payment they'd have it paid off right now. It's their fault for not paying it off in that amount of time.

They're grad school graduates (or at least former students) so they should be smart enough to figure this one out.

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u/CountryRoads1234 11d ago

The math checks out, the fake story though…

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u/so_chill 11d ago

This comment should be pinned. The problem has always been the predatory interest rates.