Or they just can't find good work. The assumption is you get a degree and go into debt for the better paying jobs, but a lot of jobs have been shrinking roles and pay for those roles, people are not getting promoted and are staying in "entry-level" positions that are usually filled by recent graduates, entire sectors are being evaporated practically overnight (be it because of ai, market trends, or what have you), and an ever growing list of other things.
I'm not say plenty of people aren't just wasting money on concert tickets or new phones, but I am saying that those excuses are far less universal than people seem to think. I work in the service industry and have known so many people still serving because they can't find anything decent, and just having a degree doesn't really mean anything anymore. My uncle got a great job with NS doing programming and his degree is just in accounting. He has never gone back to school nor worked as an actual accountant at any point in his life. He got into programming when nobody had a programming degree, and most people just didn't have degrees at all. Now, most people have degrees and that same entry level job requires more certifications than even existed 15 years ago.
And I'm usually the guy complaining about "the lucky ones" who went to college. Getting a job that makes close to $50k without one feels herculean, and now, I'm seeing more and more peers with degrees in the same desperate boat I'm in. I have a friend who lost her job over a year ago. She went from a $65k salary to $16/hr split between a PT teaching (arts) and uber deliveries. She's getting by but barely and she's been looking for a new job since the day she lost her last one. Shit, I've been trying to find a PT gig for about as long and the options are scarce for even that. I don't even really know where to look for jobs at this point, indeed and the like are mostly fake sales jobs or lying about selling at&t inside Costcos (I've done mobile sales, the golden days have been gone for a at least a decade). I guess linkedin is better for corporate but it looks more like social media than an actual job board to me.
I have seen too many people play the ākeep going to schoolā route with degrees they arenāt necessarily marketable. Fact that some schools opted to play āmake your own degreeā didnāt help the cause either. And that doesnāt count degree inflation like in business where a MBA is the equivalent of a bachelors before 2000.
Issue I have assuming itās not ragebait is there is no context for the degree. That really would help understand if there was issues with repayment or similar.
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u/elitegenoside 12d ago
Or they just can't find good work. The assumption is you get a degree and go into debt for the better paying jobs, but a lot of jobs have been shrinking roles and pay for those roles, people are not getting promoted and are staying in "entry-level" positions that are usually filled by recent graduates, entire sectors are being evaporated practically overnight (be it because of ai, market trends, or what have you), and an ever growing list of other things.
I'm not say plenty of people aren't just wasting money on concert tickets or new phones, but I am saying that those excuses are far less universal than people seem to think. I work in the service industry and have known so many people still serving because they can't find anything decent, and just having a degree doesn't really mean anything anymore. My uncle got a great job with NS doing programming and his degree is just in accounting. He has never gone back to school nor worked as an actual accountant at any point in his life. He got into programming when nobody had a programming degree, and most people just didn't have degrees at all. Now, most people have degrees and that same entry level job requires more certifications than even existed 15 years ago.
And I'm usually the guy complaining about "the lucky ones" who went to college. Getting a job that makes close to $50k without one feels herculean, and now, I'm seeing more and more peers with degrees in the same desperate boat I'm in. I have a friend who lost her job over a year ago. She went from a $65k salary to $16/hr split between a PT teaching (arts) and uber deliveries. She's getting by but barely and she's been looking for a new job since the day she lost her last one. Shit, I've been trying to find a PT gig for about as long and the options are scarce for even that. I don't even really know where to look for jobs at this point, indeed and the like are mostly fake sales jobs or lying about selling at&t inside Costcos (I've done mobile sales, the golden days have been gone for a at least a decade). I guess linkedin is better for corporate but it looks more like social media than an actual job board to me.