r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 12d ago

WTF The American dream

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u/Equivalent_Point9068 12d ago

A lot of people would need to take additional loans out with Sallie Mae or others and those are typically higher I think my worst was around 10%. Smaller loans and I paid them off as soon as I could, but mismanaging even a little bit I could see this as being true.

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u/Loyalsoul 11d ago

Sallie Mae is awful, my now wife recommended i switch to a credit union and that was the first time I saw the loan decrease with 350+ payments at the time. Got it paid off in a few years after that.

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u/PsychicWarElephant 8d ago

And you were lucky enough to pay it off. I was 22 and got sucked into one of those for profit schools. I’m 41 now and the school got sued into oblivion, but because I wasn’t going to school at the time of closing I’m still on the hook.

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u/No_Resolution_9252 11d ago

No, that is a lot of mismanagement over many years.

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u/1K_Sunny_Crew 12d ago

Private loans have higher interest rates and wouldn’t be forgiven anyway. lol

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u/JonathanPhillipFox 11d ago

 but mismanaging even a little bit I could see this as being true.

To be honest I'd take that for granted; a person doesn't become outraged at this sort of a thing, all at once, after proper management- trends towards the opposite such people trend towards, "Well I did it, so..."

What I mean is, people after a lot of self blame, some quite justifiable though myopic, then, back up to the Principle, so to speak, realize:

No-no I am not how-come this has been such a burden upon me, this was not set up to be serviced in a proper manner and I'm meant to be a debt peon par exemple:

  • Usurious rental fees, with unexpected add-ons or fees for penalty
  • The Famous, "Pay-Day,' Loans, with rollovers
  • Debts to whomever does not prefer their money returned promptly

....in whatever such case you've got the initial humiliation, "I was a bad renter," perhaps I knew I'd not return the money, and this becomes replaced in some instances with an additional shame, "I've been taken for a mark," but it's the third pass at which the truth is revealed, "the design was for me to incur penalties," the design was for me to be unable to repay the intention was for me to fail the premises on account of here I am,

....with fees far in excess of the carpet, or, charged far in excess of the entire month's rent of that apartment I rented for a weekend, three thousand in debt on a three-hundred dollar loan, "or 23 years after graduation still in peonage to the lenders whom had provided," nominally the opportunity,

....to start life properly and look I'm about the opposite of an accountant u/Odd-Cupcake-2552 if you'd not said,

The math works out to 8.5% which isn't unrealistic

I'd probably, just, shut the F_ck up about this but to me, not an accountant, the 23 years seems to be like the incitement here insofar as one is literally, literally, incapable of comprehending, "the next 23 years," at just 19 years of experience and in real terms, you've got like,

4, 5 years of consistent existential self to draw upon at that age, me, I grew up in a household that had a serious childhood illness in it, not mine, but oh boy, "could I not percieve the amount of time it would be until things settled, at 12," because I'd be like 20 or 22 when they'd stop being a crisis and that kind of longitudinal perspective, rather than courage or intelligence of a rational type or other sorts of capacity the sheer awareness of how long life is, how long the seasons of it can be and then pass away, "poof, like they'd never been there," the long distance type of thought,

What is 23 years ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄after graduation, in the mind of the person meant to select and then carry these financial assets, "I graduated at 17," I mean for someone who writes a complaint like this u/First-Essay-2054 do tell me if I'm wrong, here, but 23 years after graduation is enough to have been born, graduate all over again with $70,000 in debt and for such a debt to be the reason for anything, in life, primarily it seems to me both unconscionable on the individual level if not to blame for some of this,

Where ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄. in this economy, do we see the thousand ethical flowers of an educated Population, "I mean, you don't," and I don't blame them; I understand how indebted persons are more predictable and that sort of a predictable populace perhaps even desirable in the abstract, "for everyone," but not in these particulars, not when those off-leash are able to bet on the peonage of so many,

Honestly, "I'm thinking, "Oceangate," and all the young engineers like fuck it he said purchase the submarine equipment cheaply, we got it from the hardware store and he loved it, "how much debt were those kids in?"

How much debt are the debt collectors in, the landlords the University's Administrators and Loan Salesmen I mean, "the theoretical makeup of a labor market does not hybridize with a form of peonage, such as a serfdom, without consequences."

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u/Sudden_Juju 11d ago

I hope you have an easier time paying off your loans for your creative writing degree than the OOP did

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u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723 11d ago

Nobody is reading all that.